i love how systemd makes boot and shutdown so much slower lmao. especially shutdown.
@siina what about systemd specifically makes it slow? ​

My Arch system pretty much shuts down instantly, except if something is wrong with a service of filesystem or whatnot, but that’s not systemd’s fault, is it?

I haven’t been using other init systems in a while, so I’m curious how systemd is slow
@evilemily @siina there's nothing in systemd that should cause this on its own, as far as I can tell long shutdowns only happen if you have services that are either misconfigured, don't respond to SIGTERM, or otherwise have some problem where they end up blocking a shutdown because the service didn't stop

I think it may also be possible to misconfigure a service so bad that systemd will not know that it has shut down when it has but like, that's not the fault of the service manager
@evilemily @siina fundamentally this is a bug, not an intended behavior