@siina what about systemd specifically makes it slow? ​​

My Arch system pretty much shuts down instantly, except if something is wrong with a service of filesystem or whatnot, but that’s not systemd’s fault, is it?

I haven’t been using other init systems in a while, so I’m curious how systemd is slow

@evilemily i would say it's definitely a systemd shortcoming since I use OpenRC and i've never had shutdown hang on anything, even on this same machine (I ran it on systemd for the past month to test some things). On my laptop that uses cachy (and previously bazzite), it will hang on boot and shutdown too, despite being a fresh install.

@evilemily and to add more clarification, it's not even distribution-specific since it's happened on vanilla debian, too. 🥴