Mastodawn

RE: https://mastodon.social/@marioguzman/116239203358031852

I’m starting to get conspiratorial about this.

> everyone I’ve spoken to is happy — if not downright giddy — at the news that Lemay is replacing Dye

> haven’t been able to find any evidence suggesting there were designers internally opposed to [Liquid Glass] during development.

So what was the source of that giddyness then, if not the shitty direction, bad job? Just Dye’s personality or something? How to square this?

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John Gruber 6d ago

@mrudokas @markgurman @marioguzman No need for conspirational thinking. “Liquid Glass” isn’t the problem. If you could just swap in a new “theme” for MacOS Tahoe, the horrendous UI problems would remain. They’re separate from the visual appearance of the “theme”. The problem isn’t the Liquid Glass trees, it’s the overall state of the forest, especially on the Mac.

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Mario Guzmán 6d ago

@gruber @mrudokas @markgurman Funny you say this because I feel like I actually need to start stating. When I say Liquid Glass, I mean all of the UX on the OS. I guess I need to make that clear from now on.

I fully understand the updates they recently made were merely a "fresh coat of paint" when they also needed to update layouts and interactions.

(The way that Aqua wasn't just a coat of paint over Mac OS 9.)

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Mindaugas Rudokas

@gruber @marioguzman Yep, by LG we usually mean whole design system, not the material. And Gurman’s piece portrays like nobody inside Apple Design has voiced any concerns about any issues while developing it. I want to believe, that it’s not just us, outies, yelling at the clouds, getting through various stages of anger and grief. The reshuffle sparked hopes for UX recovery, I would hate to know that Lemay had no problems with this DS, and basically nothing has changed.