I think it has to do with community size. Even on reddit, the smaller and more insular communities are much more pleasant than the frontpage ones.

Probably just the law of large userbases. The more people around, the more rude people there are likely to be. Rude people are always a minority, but they tend to be more vocal.

A large portion of fediverse users have abandoned Reddit for moral or ethical reasons. So while occasionally people will be rude here, it tends to skew more towards polite discussion.

There’s plenty of rude people here are you kidding? People are rude to me just because I’m on lemmy.ml lmfao…

Sadly i think thats just people. Ive also seen it on smaller places like here on lemmy

I’m pretty sure the ratio of rude people in the entire user base isn’t the same when comparing the two platforms, so that plays a role too. However, I think it’s mostly a numbers game. Even if that ratio was the same, a bigger platform automatically means that you’re going to bump into a lot of rude people there. Think of it like this: If the ratio is just just 1%, that’s 1 in a small place and 100 in a big one.

On top of that, people tend to remember negative encounters very well. Even if you got only 1 nasty comment, it’s going to sting. If you got 100 comments like that, you’ll feel like the whole world is out there to get you. The human mind has this strange bias towards negative reactions.

People tend to be assholes. The more people in one place, the lower the chance of nobody being an asshole, and it does usually only take one. Then you add the karma system, which causes people to perform for the internet points. It’s not just people being a natural asshole for any number of reasons: people also reward the wrong things such as asshole behavior, Redditsplaining, zingers and stupid cringeworthy clichés. The karma factor is lower here, but still a thing.

Keep in mind that nice people have learned their lesson. Most people don’t take critique kindly, especially when it comes to grammar. And it’s often best to just keep your mouth shut, and worry about your own problems.

I’ve had a couple interactions that left me feeling pretty meh. Idk.

Redditeers are the bottom of the barrel.

honestly I spent most of my time on reddit on specific communities and people were generally nicer when gathered about a particalur topic like an mmo or an rpg system. So can’t say I encountered all that many bad reddit folks.

It depends on your communities. There are plenty of proudly toxic people on the fediverse.

Not disagreeing with the other comments here but I’d add that hostility breeds engagement, and for sites like Reddit, engagement equals more time spent on the site and more opportunities to serve ads.

Whether intentional or not, the algorithms push more aggressive/rude/hurtful comments to the top. Reddits business is making money off you while lemmy is just there. I expect that accounts for some of what you see

Cultures/conventions are assumption-rivers, aka “religions”.

Toxic-culture’s a habit, an ideology, a “religion”, a self-reinforcing-feedback-mechanism, & a kind of “food” for ones who want that particular substance.

Once entrenched, it’s nearly-impossible to change a culture.

Chaning a culture generally requires focus+action both at the top AND grass-roots.

Without both, nothing’ll change, usually.

( without grassroots, nothing’ll change, no matter what the leader wants/does )

& Reddit’s CEO has paid himself $1/8B IN A SINGLE YEAR, while Reddit wasn’t in profit, so DarkTriad’s their corporate-culture, fersure, in my opinion.

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I think some bots are trained to be controversial and mean. Controversial take would be that age verification roots out the young pranksters from certain communities.

1 . The extra steps to find a fedi instance and create a new account is usually too tedious for the post-first-think-later kind of guy.

2 . The like/dislike function are present, but the lack of shitty function like karma, medals etc. don’t push the users in some kind of frenzy “contest” where copy-pasted crap or Ai-slop flood the platform.

3 . The flow of new contents is too slow to encourage doom-scrolling types. The users who stays more of a week are usually people interested in discuss things and actually “read” other comments.

Why are people so rude on Reddit

Yes.

Reddit is full of angsty teenagers, bots, and American leftists that hate their dads. Sometimes they’re all the same account.

Hope you find more friendly folks here 🫡

Reddit is big enough that it’s a microcosm of humanity. The Fediverse hasn’t reached that level yet.

When I was on Reddit, most of the subreddits I hung out on were small, supportive, and friendly. A few I monitored weren’t — on purpose, so I could see what was going on in other places.

Funny thing is, for the most part, I’ve found matches for all those subreddits on Lemmy communities— although I had to browse through a bunch of hosting services to build up the same level of diversity.

Don’t worry, there are pockets of rude people on here, too. Because that culture is spilling over everywhere.

You’re doing good, but both “ingen av bedriften din” (no one of your company) and “dette er ikke din sak” (this is not your case) is equally wrong. Both are saying English phrases in Norwegian, which makes it sound strange. This is the closest I can think of in the early morning fog of mind: “Ha’kke du no’ med” - østlandsk “Har ikke du noe med” - bokmål

Instead of translating English phrases, I’d recommend trying to look up Norwegian phrases and see if any fits your need.

ITS THE BOTS, its to create divisive in every reddit it goes to, so people will overreact.

Theory:

People on Lemmy self select to be here, usually as a direct backlash to prevailing Reddit culture, management or behaviour.

Reddit is mainstream, discoverable, friction free for the masses.

OTOH, there is small (albeit deliberate friction) in engagement here, that hearkens back to USENET days. It’s analog, messy and human. There are some bots here (to be sure) so I don’t know how long the Golden Age of Lemmy will exist, but clearly this space was designed by someone who knows the old magics. It shows.

Therefore, if you posit an inverse correlation between “is an utter cunt” and “wants to interact on niche social media forum called Lemmy”, I think you’d have a safe bet.

It’s not a a hard gate by any means, but it gambles (correctly) on friction keeping the biggest trolls away. The ROI for being a cunt is demonstrably higher on Reddit, Tiktok etc

Result: Lemmy is a nicer place to visit. For now.

Also, yes: I am Australian. Does it show? Cunt cunt cunty cunt cuntington III.

That hasn’t really been my experience. Lemmy seems nicer on the surface because most of the userbase is ideologically aligned, so conflict is less likely. But once you make the wrong noises about something, plenty of people show up ready to prove just how mean and horrible they can actually be.

Also, on Reddit I never had anyone follow me around trying to cause reputational damage by spreading false accusations about me.