Donald Trump Stuns With 'Maybe We Shouldn't Even Be There' Admission About Iran War

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He later said: “So, we need, I, I would really, I’m demanding that these countries come in and protect their own territory because it is their territory, it’s the place from which they get their energy and they should come and they should help us protect it.”

Then came the line that quickly sparked reaction online:

“You could make the case that maybe we shouldn’t even be there at all because we don’t need it.”

It’s Iran’s terrority, and Iran is defending it after being attacked…

But I really think he’s getting pressure from Christian extremists to abandon Israel. Their endgame was always Israel getting wiped out by its neighbors to start Armageddon and rapture Christians.

If no one joins against Iran, trump will likely try to slink away and Bibi holding the bag.

And he threatened NATO, who by all his accounts “stood back from the front lines” When Article 5 was called during the bullshit second Gulf War. And now he DEMANDS they help. Sure buddy.

I just love the quote:

So, we need, I, I would really, I’m demanding…

He starts with needing help, starts to say he just really wants it, then pivota to demanding it.

The fact that he went thru those steps shows how much pressure he’s facing.

His two biggest wings of influence has been Israel and American christo-fascists, if they start pulling him in opposite ways, he can’t hold onto both.

He’s fucked, but so are the rest of us by extension. Hopefully just till midterms at least.

you still think voting will get you out of the fascism you invited in?

Of course not. If the first move on a chess board was to simply take your opponent’s king, that would always be the first move in every game.

Having the midterm vote suppressed is just one sacrificial pawn in the direction of what needs to be done to eradicate fascism.

Knowing what to do isn’t that valuable if you don’t time it correctly. It’s not just one person or party. It is systemic and requires a critical mass of history to be successful.

hmmm with every erosion of your civil rights and liberties, the job of getting the pedophile president out is just going to be harder and harder… you don’t need to wait until the last possible recourse is an actual assassination.

It is beyond my understanding how nobody seems to be actually calling for a General Strike in the USA… and the feeble attempts at marches (which are good) are specifically called far apart and on weekends to ensure they can simply be ignored by the regime

General Strike in the USA

FYI, this is somehow illegal in the USA.

so?

A lot of us are organizing and are going out pretty much every weekend to protests. I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety. Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.

Our current situation really is the culmination of almost 70 years of rightwing efforts. It’s a long listen but worth checking out How Conservatism Won by Robert Evans. He lays out in a clear concise way “how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all).” They’ve been very successful and those think tanks are now pipelines used to funnel ideological purists into powerful positions like our current Supreme Court.

The shadowy cabals the rightwing says are behind everything is classic projection again, they’re controlled by shadowy cabals of rich people. One of the primary ghouls/traitors responsible for the attempted overthrow of our government on J6 was Roger Stone, the same traitorous ratfucker who began his career working for Nixon and has a fucking Nixon tattoo on his back. It’s really impossible to overstate how bad these people are and they’re winning.

The coup was successful, they’re in power and if they don’t want to give it up they won’t.

Get to know people in your community. Take an interest in growing food, learn how to fix things. Establish secondary lines of communication and start preparing.

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