RandAlThor

Germany to Trump: We won’t help you reopen the Strait of Hormuz

https://lemmy.ca/post/61886977

Germany to Trump: We won’t help you reopen the Strait of Hormuz - Lemmy.ca

“This war has nothing to do with NATO. It’s not NATO’s war,” Stefan Kornelius, a spokesperson for German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, told reporters in Berlin on Monday. “NATO is a defensive alliance, an alliance for the defense of its territory,” he added.

Mar 16 at 3:11pmWeb
Show threadsomethingDotExe6d ago
Good answer. Fuck Benjamin and Donald Ducks war. They don’t even know why they did it. NATO is not for undocumented wars.
Show threadUnderpantsWeevil6d ago

NATO is not for undocumented wars.

Glances at the last 80 years of NATO history

:-/

Show threadSamskara5d ago
Yes, Serbia should have been allowed to genocide more Muslim Bosnians and Albanians. Also Ghadaffi should have been allowed to butcher his population.
Show threadremon6d ago
But not out of principle … our ships just don’t go that far without breaking down!
Show threadRandAlThor6d ago
lol is that true? are you german?
Show threadunexposedhazard6d ago
It is a bit of a meme in germany that our military equipment suffers from a lack of maintenance. Also there were a bunch of cases of new weapons systems just failing catastrophically or having huge security issues.
Show threadSamskara5d ago

While true, Germany also has quite strict rules on rating equipment to not be ready. A broken heating or turning indicator on an IFV means it counts as non operational.

For ships there’s a rule of thumb. One is operational and on a mission, one is being refueled and restocked, one is being refit, maintained, or upgraded. So you need three units to always have one available. Germany has six submarines, meaning two are always available for active operations.

For planes you have to do hours of maintenance for every minute in the air.

The Bundeswehr used to lack funds and personnel, now it lacks mostly qualified personnel.

Show thread_edge6d ago
“Bedingt abwehrfähig” is the bureacratic term the government uses to explain that the German military, in particular the equipment, is broken beyond any hope of repair.
Show threadDecq6d ago
Are we going have that brain-dead ‘freedom’ fries bullshit again? Is this really going to be a repeat of 2003 Iraq? Seeing the limitless supply of brain rot in the US, probably we will.
Show threadSamskara5d ago
Even if there’s a full scale invasion of Iran, a repeat of the aftermath of Irak is unlikely. Irak was much more of an artificial country with the major divisions between Kurds, Shia, and Sunni. While Iran also has a bunch of large minorities, it’s more cohesive overall.
Show threadD_C6d ago
“but…but…usually when I fuck things up someone sorts it out for me. Why won’t you fix my massive fuck up?”
Show threadIratePirate5d ago
You’re almost eight eighty. Soon you’ll be one of the big boys dead.
Show threadgandalf_der_12te5d ago
It feels a lot like Trump shits and then asks us to wipe his ass clean.
Show threadJ925d ago
Please, sleep alone in the bed you shat in.
Show threadMrMakabar5d ago
Why do you have to kick Netanyahu out of his bed?
Show threadBlackmist5d ago

I like how Trump’s response to this is a petulant “well we don’t need you anyway, so there!”

Europe needs to seriously up it’s arms manufacturing though.