mhoye

My Friends Of A Certain Age, I say this with a GenXer's love: Firefly nostalgia is not going to be any healthier for us than Woodstock nostalgia was for our parents.

It's OK to grow and change. We will not be young again; we can let the things that were good when we were young, because we were young, go.

We don't need to our youth repackaged and sold back to us. We know what's at the end of that road.

Mar 16 at 2:54pmWeb
Show threadFlorian 'floe' Echtler6d ago
@mhoye Let me guess, they're gonna do a remake? 😑🙄
Show threadDer Giga6d ago
@floe Worse, looks like a new season with the old cast.
(Not really informed, I just saw a teaser)
@mhoye
Show threadColman Reilly6d ago

@DerGiga @floe @mhoye <very long sigh> animated series set between series and movie voiced by original cast. I’m interested to see what they do, it’ll be good or it won’t, but I don’t see why anyone needs to put so much weight on it. On either side.

And I’m not sure the “I put aside childish things” is healthy either.

Show threadDer Giga6d ago
@Colman Ok, sorry for malking you sigh that hard, and thank you for the explanation. It sounds like it could work, maybe I could enjoy it even, though I doubt I'll get the sub needed for it.
I was just too tired and sad to care. We have so much repetition and are running in nostalgic circles, that the idea smh offends me, not spec Firefly, they deserve to have fun.
It adds to the feel of smothering the next generation worse than it was done to us.
@floe @mhoye
Show threadColman Reilly6d ago
@DerGiga @floe @mhoye there are ten thousand takes on Romeo and Juliet. A couple of thousand years of religions based on rejigging the same base texts. I can allow a little more firefly.
Show threadDer Giga6d ago
@Colman For me it's not that comparable, and if I do: I feel it makes it worse. Those retold classics are often (pretentious?) hit or miss that say more about your local theater company.
You are absolutely right; there is no harm in a new Firefly show, and it would be stupid of you to enjoy it any less because of what I said. You just saw my breaking point with cultural stagnation. I'm aware that I'm totally unfair towards Firefly now and that it's not my actual problem. @floe @mhoye
Show threadkami_kadse6d ago

@mhoye

yes, I liked Firefly. yes, it's okay to move on.

Show threadPxl Phile6d ago

@mhoye that's right. And then again there are lots and lots of lovers of old hardware, DOS 8086, Atari, Mac games, CGA graphics, mod tracker and demo software etc.

So maybe, only maybe, we people of a certain age might be open for shiny new things even if the concept is old.

Show threadBen6d ago
@mhoye let's just make good new stuff. That's what some problematic dudes did twenty years ago.
Show threadDB Schwein6d ago

@ben @mhoye

but the problematic dude isn't part of the new thing, which is a big part of the shiny.

I'd rather 100 new shows set in old universes than 1 more let's hurt people in front of an audience "reality" show.

YMMV

Show threadKevin Boyd (he/him) 🇨🇦6d ago
@deirdrebeth @ben @mhoye Whedon isn't, but Baldwin is.
Show threadDB Schwein6d ago

@kboyd @ben @mhoye

Ah, I hadn't known Baldwin was part of gamergate 🫤
That's disappointing.

Interesting, there were a lot of things talking about him not being part of the new thing, but I guess now he is. Wonder what changed?

Show threadTheRiver20106d ago

@mhoye

Very true.
Not only regarding Firefly.

Show threadDavid Fleetwood - RG Admin6d ago
@mhoye This. Nostalgia is a trap. We don't need to continue every thing we liked at some later date. My favorite comedy ever was News Radio, it was fantastic. I do not need a continuation or reboot. It was a product of it's time and that's okay.
Show threadmhoye6d ago

@reflex Yeah, that's a good comparison. Absolutely powerhouse cast, lightning in a bottle writing and chemistry, and impossible to recreate.

Super Karate Monkey Death Car For Life though.

Show threadDavid Fleetwood - RG Admin6d ago
@mhoye That is literally the funnest thing I've ever watched. That episode absolutely killed me when I first saw it. Jimmy just...continues reading omg!
Show threadendolexi6d ago
@mhoye I really like to evaluate such things based on their individual merit, and whether it manages to tell a good + compelling + fun story that can stand on its own.
I despise fanservice, but I know enough good examples of "old settings, new stories" that I give these things the benefit of a doubt.
Show threadKevin Boyd (he/him) 🇨🇦6d ago

@mhoye ... counterpoint:

Frankenstein just won an Oscar. No, scratch that, THREE oscars, nine nominations.

Which suggests that revisiting old stomping grounds can bear new and worthy fruit.

Which I'm not necessarily saying in defence of Firefly, but rather in defence of Babylon 5 and Stargate and (hopefully) The Expanse as they explore various avenues for continuing their stories.

Show threadWesDym6d ago
@mhoye Not seeing it, sorry. I really don't care what other people think about what I like or why, and I don't see why I would.
Show threadmhoye6d ago
@wesdym why are you telling me that, then?
Show threadWesDym6d ago
@mhoye Just wondering what your thesis here is. It sounds like you're telling people they should feel bad about loving something from their past. I don't see any argument for that. Growing up doesn't mean you have to throw away the past.