return2ozmaTrump Demands Death Penalty for Reporters in Unhinged War Rant
peteySo I listened to it and heard nothing about death penalties for reporters. Am I missing something?
The source is a Truth Social post:
truthsocial.com/…/116235861005528220
click to expand full quote:> Iran has long been known as a Master of Media Manipulation and Public Relations. They are Militarily ineffective and weak, but are really good at “feeding” the very appreciative Fake News Media false information. Now, A.I. has become another Disinformation weapon that Iran uses, quite well, considering they are being annihilated by the day. They showed phony “Kamikaze Boats,” shooting at various Ships at Sea, which looks wonderful, powerful, and vicious, but these Boats don’t exist — It’s all false information to show how “tough” their already defeated Military is! The five U.S. Refueling Planes that were supposedly struck down and badly damaged, according to The Wall Street Journal’s false reporting, and others, are all in service, with the exception of one, which will soon be flying the skies. Buildings and Ships that are shown to be on fire are not — It’s FAKE NEWS, generated by A.I. For instance, Iran, working in close coordination with the Fake News Media, shows our great USS Abraham Lincoln Aircraft Carrier, one of the largest and most prestigious Ships in the World, burning uncontrollably in the Ocean. Not only was it not burning, it was not even shot at — Iran knows better than to do that! The story was knowingly FAKE and, in a certain way, you can say that those Media Outlets that generated it should be brought up on Charges for TREASON for the dissemination of false information! The fact is, Iran is being decimated, and the only battles they “win” are those that they create through AI, and are distributed by Corrupt Media Outlets. The Radical Leftwing Press knows this full well, but continues to go forward with false stories and LIES. That’s why their Approval Rating is so low, and I can win a Presidential Election, IN A LANDSLIDE, getting only 5% positive Press — They have no credibility! I am so thrilled to see Brendan Carr, the Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), looking at the licenses of some of these Corrupt and Highly Unpatriotic “News” Organizations. They get Billions of Dollars of FREE American Airwaves, and use it to perpetuate LIES, both in News and almost all of their Shows, including the Late Night Morons, who get gigantic Salaries for horrible Ratings, and never get, as I used to say in The Apprentice, “FIRED.” Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
Quoting Trump’s post, the nugget of truth is from:
The story was knowingly FAKE and, in a certain way, you can say that those Media Outlets that generated it should be brought up on Charges for TREASON for the dissemination of false information!
Which they turned into “Demands Death Penalty” because DailyBeast is a tabloid.
TBH I’m sick of DailyBeast and Rawstory showing up in my Lemmy feed. I’d argue they violate this community’s “credible sources” rule.
thisbenzingringwell that’s true but also the penalty for treason is the death penalty
Or imprisonment.
Point is, that’s not what the quote directly said. And that’s what distinguishes journalism, and tabloids like DailyBeast (or talking heads/“analysis” like Fox News). Hence, every actual news outlet on this topic went with a factual headline, and quoted Trump directly instead of making a jump.
This distinction is very important to me. Ragebait like DailyBeast is why Trump is in power and the world sucks now, because it works.
I get your point, but the president saying people should get life in prison if not killed for their 1st amendment right which he swore and oath to uphold would be an absolute reason for an immediate impeachment to most.
WesDym@LifeInMultipleChoice @brucethemoose However you choose to interpret it or feel about it, it is not factual reporting. You either care about that or you don't.
Precisely.
So the terrorist who spoke their mind was stated here
And the president says they should be executed for their words. They agree with such, or they would not have agreed with what they did
Ragebait like DailyBeast is why Trump is in power
No, that was bigotry, racism, billionaire-controlled media, voter suppression and foreign interference. The Daily Beast’s influence is lost in the noise compared to those factors.
And how likely do you really think it is that Trump would direct the captive, corrupt DoJ to exercise leniency? It’s like someone is waving a gun in someone else’s face and you’re saying “well, ackshually, we don’t really know if he intends to use it to intimidate or shoot that guy.” And the gunman is a known sadist who places no value on human life.
@thisbenzingring No. Just stop with argument like this. It's childish.
Yeah no, the president saying people should be charged with something thats punishment is death or life in prison is exactly that… saying those journalists should be out to death or life in prison for what they have written.
@LifeInMultipleChoice Your sloppy, immature writing and sloppy reasoning are evidence of sloppy thinking, and sloppy argument. The attitute you're bringing to this is exactly the problem -- democracy by FEELINGS, instead of solid facts.
I know you won't understand why I'm permanently blocking you, but hopefully you'll take two or three seconds to at least think about it.
I owe absolutely nothing to anyone who insists on lazy or intellectually dishonest discourse.
It’s tough, because I don’t want to give him or the American justice system the benefit of the doubt, but I really hate the misrepresentation of this in the media. Charging someone with treason doesn’t mean they’ll be imprisoned or executed, it means they’ll be put on trial. If this story had addressed the potential for the president to bias the country against these reporters by calling personally for them to be charged with treason, I would be a lot less annoyed by the headline, but it’s inaccurate and they didn’t put any actual investigation into this piece.
It might be splitting hairs, but I really do wish for exhaustive Nuremberg style trials when I call this regime criminal, treasonous, and genocidal. I wouldn’t mourn if a few of them didn’t make it to trial, but I don’t want them to be able to take their secrets to the grave en masse.
I don’t think you’re splitting hair; you’re being consistent in your values, and journalistic integrity matters more to you than having your biais confirmed.
It doesn’t matter whether the target of this article is the best person in the world or the worst person in the world, their words are not being reported accurately.
I loathe everything Donald Trump stands for, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to misrepresent what he says like that for engagement. There are more than enough appalling things the man does and says on a daily basis to not go that low.
Like someone above wrote, I don’t think daily beast articles have their place here.
No, they are just blind to context. It’s Trump. He is threatening a treason charge precisely because it carries a potential death penalty. He knows that, that’s why he’s making the threat, and he is vindictive enough to abuse the legal system to make an example of some poor scribbler.
I’m sorry but I’ve seen plenty of people lose their jobs and get a visit from SS because they mentioned Trump’s actions were treasonous. Which someone then interpreted as death threats. One side doesn’t get to do this and then play coy when they do it themselves.
🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞So because one side plays loose with truth, you accept false reporting from supposed journalists?
That’s certainly a choice.
AmnesigenicIt’s not false
TBH I’m sick of DailyBeast and Rawstory showing up in my Lemmy feed. I’d argue they violate this community’s “credible sources” rule.
I’ll support that motion.
TBH I’m sick of DailyBeast and Rawstory showing up in my Lemmy feed.
Try this: don’t click the link.
And there’s a chain of reasoning that makes the headline more than bullshit: Trump is demanding journalists be put on trial for treason, which has a maximum penalty of death. Trump is a long-time advocate of brutal and excessive punishment for anyone not on his good side. The leadership at DoJ are all Trump syophants who take their direction from him. Ergo, any journalist who pisses off Trump is likely to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, if not beyond.
Short version: Trump was threatening journalists with the death penalty.
Additional research: the Central Park Five, where Trump demanded their execution even after they were conclusively exonerated.
It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter if Trump shouted “I’m going to execute you!” at the top of his lungs while throwing a baby out the window, on film, in front of a million people; if the headline makes inferred jumps and sensationalizes the event, it is not a news article. Its opinion/talk or whatever label you want to call it.
And that is exactly why we’re here. Trump is a troll that thrives on tabloid journalism; everything that’s even a little exaggerated is just feeding him. It’s why he’s there. And I am very sensitive to the idea that “it’s really news because its true with these conditions and aligns with my beliefs” because thats the core operating mode of MAGA.