Robert KingettI know #Signal is very popular, but at least for me, using NVDA, the desktop client is far less screen reader friendly than the mobile clients. The mobile clients work far better for me, but I honestly don't use my phone for much these days outside of being a media player that can make phone calls, so, as of right now, I'd recommend Delta Chat instead https://delta.chat/en/ #DeltaChat
🏳️⚧️PepperTheVixen🦯@WeirdWriter The desktop client is a bit of a faff with NVDA, but it's navigable with some practice. If you want, I can give you a hand with it. I use it every day on Win11 with NVDA
Olivia Vespera@PepperTheVixen @WeirdWriter
There's a reason for that I think. It's because of Microsoft recall. in order to block microsoft recall from taking a screenshot of Signal it does something that unfortunately blocks screenreaders.
There is a setting you can turn off to disable the feature and allow screenreaders to work. the downside is that Microsoft recall and hence, embedded AI will be able to access your messages. in essence subverting End to end encryption, in a way.
@OliviaVespera @WeirdWriter I just checked my running copy on windows, and that setting isn't interfering with NVDA. I've been using the app fine for months with that option enabled
@PepperTheVixen @WeirdWriter You have to disable it. Is that what you meant?
@PepperTheVixen @WeirdWriter You're more the expert on this than I am. I just know that Signal recognises there are issues with it.
@PepperTheVixen @WeirdWriter Just going through Signal video on it. Udbhav Tiwari directly names NVDA as one of the legitimate services that this flag in siganl breaks. Here's the timestamp video where he talks about it directly. He could be wrong on it.
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@OliviaVespera Hmm... okay now I need to do some testing on this. I might not be using the specific features that break with that option
@PepperTheVixen I don't suppose you're on linux?
@OliviaVespera I'm not, but I can spin up a VM without too much trouble
@PepperTheVixen No it's okay, I'm on linux. They haven't rolled out this setting on linux's version of Signal... and I'm not sure. does NVDA work on linux? I am sighted.
@OliviaVespera Sadly no. Linux has Speakup on the command line and Orca on the desktop. Orca is in rough shape and needs a lot of work on the package itself and the accessibility APIs it hooks into