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Trump snubs Zelensky’s offer to help US with drone tech and lashes out at him again

https://lemmy.world/post/44306030

Trump snubs Zelensky’s offer to help US with drone tech and lashes out at him again - Lemmy.World

Donald Trump made clear that his personal grudge with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky hasn’t abated during a phone interview with NBC News. Speaking with Meet the Press anchor Kristen Welker on Saturday, the president knocked Zelensky for offering assistance to the U.S. and Middle Eastern countries, the latter of which the Ukrainian president said on Friday were seeking his aid in sharing drone detection technology. The “last person we need help from is Zelensky,” Trump told Welker.

givesomefucks 4d ago

Ukraine is winning because they found cheaper drone defenses than drones…

Were burning thru our sophisticated interceptors because we’re wasting them on drones 1/100th the prices.

Iran just has to keep pumping out the same drones they’ve been sending to Russia.

Like, Ukraine is literally the one government that knows how to win this kind of war.

Ukraine unfortunately is not winning and is in serious trouble.

AnchoriteMagus 4d ago

“Serious trouble” is holding the world’s supposed second most powerful military to a gain of only 0.8% of Ukraine’s territory after the initial invasion?

“Serious trouble” is a 27:1 casualty ratio in Ukraine’s favor, with over 1.2 million dead or wounded on Russia’s side?

If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge over the Volga to sell you.

perestroika 4d ago

Serious trouble” is a 27:1 casualty ratio in Ukraine’s favor,

Your other points are true. This, sadly, is not. The situation is at best 4:1, in bad sectors, 3:1. It also varies - wounded Russian soldiers tend to die of their wounds far more often than wounded Ukrainian soldiers.

However, if it was 2.7:1, it was too pessimistic.

Edit: link for people who keep downvoting without a clue. CSIS thinks the ratio is more pessimistic. They mention numbers like 2.1 : 1 and 2.5 : 1.

Russia’s Grinding War in Ukraine

Despite claims of success in Ukraine, new CSIS data shows that Russia is paying an extraordinary price for minimal gains, with over 1.2 million casualties. Russia is also in decline as a major economic power with slow growth, weak productivity, and declining manufacturing.

AnchoriteMagus 4d ago

independent.co.uk/…/ukraine-kills-27-russian-sold…

Ukraine killed 27 Russian soldiers for every loss as it regained Kupiansk

The Independent

perestroika 4d ago

It is nice to know that it has gone exceptionally well for Ukraine in Kupyansk. Meanwhile:

www.csis.org/…/russias-grinding-war-ukraine

Russian battlefield casualties and fatalities are significantly greater than Ukrainian casualties and fatalities—with a ratio of roughly 2.5:1 or 2:1.

That’s the opinon of the Center for Strategic Studies.

Russia’s Grinding War in Ukraine

Despite claims of success in Ukraine, new CSIS data shows that Russia is paying an extraordinary price for minimal gains, with over 1.2 million casualties. Russia is also in decline as a major economic power with slow growth, weak productivity, and declining manufacturing.

Lost_My_Mind 4d ago

Haaaaaaang on.

Are you saykng that Iran has been supplying Russia with drones, and now they’ll be keeping them to use against the USA, for the explicit purpose of being destroyed?

So, wouldn’t this mean Russia loses their supply? So wouldn’t that mean it’s actually in Zelenskyys best interest to NOT help the USA?

If USA ends their war quickly, Iran starts supplying Russia again with drones. But until that happens, wouldn’t Ukraine have an easier time in their own war?

If USA ends their war quickly

The only way the US ends this war quickly is by retreating. Drones or not it’s a quagmire.

Lost_My_Mind 4d ago

War agsinst a non-nuclear state onlu needs 2 things to be quick.

A shitload of nukes

Someone in charge of those nukes who has no morals or empathy.

At this point, the only thing making the war take more than a day, is the fact that somehow trump thought better of dropping 4,000 nukes spread out over the entirety of Iran. They’d probably call it something like “Operation Scorched Earth”.

Nukes risk triggering MAD, that’s the end of the world

FireRetardant 4d ago

Trump treated Zelensky like a wet rag when he invited him to the whitehouse and Zelensky still willing to offer his first hand knowledge and experience of drone warfare.

SeeMarkFly 4d ago

That’s how a true diplomat works.

lechekaflan 4d ago

Of course, that fat bastard in the Oval Office being the running dog for the Kremlin.

I’m sure it’s an open secret in Ukraine.

Cucked little bitch. Putin’s dick is so far down his throat that he’s able to fuck his breakfast Big Mac.

I still cannot believe that this pube-flecked chunk of human excrement won a second term. It’s still genuinely sickening to me, like my stomach really feels like I’m perpetually tipping over the apogee of a rollercoaster when I remember what happened. His winning the first term was at least comprehensible, but I’m still punchdrunk from the shock of it all, even after all this time. And I’m not even from the US! I can’t imagine what it feels like for the people who have to live there, especially those who aren’t cis-white-hetero-males.

AMoralNihilist 4d ago

Anyone who has spent any time in the US shouldn’t be surprised by him winning. It was and is still shockingly frustrating and disappointing, but unfortunately that’s only because it’s an emotionally difficult pill to swallow how awful so much of it is.

Sort of how no one is surprised when Israel bomb indiscriminately, the US invades/coups/bombs another country, Saudi executes a bunch of people, Russia is excessively brutal, massacres in African conflicts if not genocides and ethnic cleansing that most of the world ignores.

No matter how predictable, it is always shockingly horrifying, but not surprising.

BarneyPiccolo 4d ago

JFC, HE CHEATED! Everybody knows it! He won EVERY swing states? That’s was pretty much a statistical impossibility. They made no secret of it, both Trump and Musk both said many times that they intended to steal it.

All they had to do was flip one vote in seven states. That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of straight Democratic ballots, with Trump at the top. MILLIONS OF THEM! Who does that? Who votes that way? Have you ever met a person who voted straight Democratic, except for Trump? I’ve never met one, and I’ve never seen one on TV. That’s because they don’t exist, not in any significant numbers.

And the craziest thing is, they ONLY seem to exist in the swing states, because that vote pattern didn’t occur anywhere else.

But as soon as the polls closed, the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries immediately declared Trump’s victory “fair & square,” abdicating their sworn responsibilities, and condemning America to the political Hell we are being dragged through.

If it was “fair & square,” it was the first time in his entire life that Trump didn’t cheat, and it is highly doubtful that he would choose the one election that would keep him him out of a life sentence in prison to finally play it straight. Does that sound like the Trump we know?

Quit doubting America, quit doubting Harris’s campaign, and place the blame where it belongs - on Trump, and his evil cabal of corrupt, treasonous, pedophiles.

Why do you say that? Americans not caring about democracy and freedom wasn’t on my personal bingo card prior to the 2024 election so it did come as a bit of a shock to me.

You’re lived under a rock before '24?

what exactly are you referring to?

zelensky is such a cuck, why was he offering to take part in a war he has nothing to do with?

Patrikvo 4d ago

Actually, it a great move. US get valuable training and Ukrain get the ammo and support it needs.

US gets valuable training to bomb school children, sure

Patrikvo 4d ago

Which shows the US really needs to get that training until the can see the difference between a school and, say, a tank or a airplane?

They would still bomb schools tho

Tollana1234567 4d ago

trump already lifted oil sanctions from russia, hes going to abandon ukraine very soon.

Hasn’t he done that already? What is the US doing to help Ukraine at this point?

metermatic26 4d ago

Unbelievable…Trump’s would rather save his ego than let Ukraine help save American lives.

My brother in-law actually has a diagnosed personality disorder and the way Trump behaves, especially while under duress, is identical to how my brother in-law would react.

If Trump indeed suffers from a personality disorder, which I am convinced is the case, then he is literally incapable of backing down.

This is an absolute nightmare scenario for the US. Trump won’t stop until he is forced to stop. We will see Trump make even more crucial mistakes and see him try and escalate this as far as he possible can.

Trump’s would rather save his ego

Trump’s ego is the thing he values most of all.