I 100% understand and support an anti-AI coding stance, but I'm seeing more and more people assert that everyone hates it and it never works. Unlike gen-art, unlike generated legal opinions, generated code is actually starting to produce good results, and more and more of my colleagues are using it, and as I review the code they produce, I can't just dismiss it as slop.

I'm not asking anyone to change their opinion or abandon the fight against AI. I'm just warning that asserting that "everyone hates it and it doesn't work" is ... increasingly incorrect. Effective arguments need to speak to the reality of the situation.

@huxley
"Everyone hates it and it never works" are two statements that could be separated.
I do not care that it works, i hate the tech from the concentration camp maximalists the same way i hate Hugo Boss and Mercedes Benz
@wachoperro I agree they are separate questions but they are often stated together in people's posts. Many people still hate AI (with good reason!) but the circle of people who like it is growing far beyond the circle of the shittiest peope

@huxley
Yep, i think the marketing is working. People are only taking their personal experience with the "you are absolutely right" machine and forget about the african intelligence that makes AI work, or the giant subsidies that the industry is giving since day one just to become too big to fail.

People seem to still want iphones even with all the slave labor they need. Would they keep like them if they costed 10X and was their only way to communicate?

@huxley
Also would like to add, in a more tinfoily way but still /srs

If the shittiest people (the ones with the worst standards) like it, then the next people to like it would be the ones with _slightly_ better standards, which is a low bar to pass, so i personally don't think that is a good thing.

AI Reception got better, and now we have the "purity culture" thing thrown around everywhere to dismiss anti-AI sentiment, which tells me that the bar got up by a little bit just because some people are ok with _some_ of the problems with AI.

So "not caring the slave labor behind AI" can be an acceptable view, and "not caring about the climate effects", and "not caring about the labor effects", and "not caring about the energy consumption". If someone doesn't care about one of those individually, they can get in the "purity culture" camp and the ones who do not care about more than one (or most) of those things will have their back every day.