@paulk The claim is untrue at face value, at least for the consumer, since the markets are linked. But there is a point here that the less we depend on fossil energy, the less the oil prices matter to the consumer.

@veronica @paulk

I think the claim is true.

The final price paid by most of us is an average of all energy prices and it raises up as an effect of oil price raise.

However, the price of solar and wind energy don't increase.

@max That's pretty much what I said though. Except that your last sentence isn't true. The price increases, the production cost is less affected.

@paulk

@max For the record, my political opinion is that it should be as you say. Electricity should be sold reasonably close to cost, and regulated as such, not traded on exchanges where the goal is to maximise profit. Energy is a common good and an essential resource.

@paulk

@veronica @paulk

Do you think that people having solar panels on their roof will pay something more this month to convert solar radiation hitting their panels into electricity?

@max Moving the goal post doesn't make your claim about "the price of solar and wind energy don't increase" any more correct. The price is the price. If you don't pay it, then that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.