Alexia Mar 13
Systemd has denied to revise their policy in regards to AI.

they've also marked evidence that people gave regarding its effectiveness as off-topic, then locked the conversation.

I believe the authors have not understood the weight of the issue. Later this day, I will begin drafting an open letter to Systemd's authors under the Starlight Network umbrella of projects. EDIT: or perhaps I will take a different approach. There's many more issues I want to talk about.
Disallow usage of generative AI to write code · Issue #41085 · systemd/systemd

Component No response Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe Generative AI is actively killing people, driving up costs, and plagiarizing work from many open source developer...

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Show threadNerdNextDoor Mar 13
@alexia completely fucking ridiculous. at this point, we’d all be better off just recreating everything that AI has infected instead of arguing with these people.
Show threadRoseMar 13
@mrmasterkeyboard @alexia I actually didn't understand any of it. I know about systemd. could you explain in simple words what is actually happening there?
Show threadNerdNextDoor Mar 13
@Rose @alexia Basically, they've allowed AI contributions by providing AI agents instructions on how to contribute, plus I also think they did some AI sloppery in documentation? (Then again, I don't really use systemd other than on my Ubuntu laptop which I will now refuse to update, and will be switching to FreeBSD soon which I predict I'll work on in around another... month or more?)
Show threadRoseMar 13
@mrmasterkeyboard @alexia another one 🤦🏼‍♀️ Any other distro that doesn't use systemd? I don't do much on my laptop, a browser it's almost all I need.
Show threadNerdNextDoor 
@Rose @alexia A few that I know allow you to select other init systems:
Gentoo (OpenRC or systemd)
Devuan (Debian but OpenRC, sysvinit or runit)
Void Linux (runit)
Alpine too (OpenRC)
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Show threadIan JacksonMar 14
@mrmasterkeyboard @Rose @alexia I've been running Debian with trad sysvinit for years now. It seems fine.
The procedure for a fresh install is unfortunately shell runes including halfway through the installer but should be doable by your local Debian expert. IIRC the instructions are on the wiki.
My thanks to the Debian init diversity team! (Some of whose most important contributors are also working on Devuan.)