Velocipede Rider"We care about your privacy!"
Us and our ONE THOUSAND, FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR "partners". Hah ha!
Also fuck off!
Also I just switched off JS and read your fucking article anyway. What you and your partners gonna do about that? 🤪
In the real world still, if a person says to you, "This is my partner", that basically means something like, "If you trust me, you can trust them" and/or "this person can speak on my behalf because they know me really well".
But online "partner" apparently now just means "a collection of companies whose names I could not even recount without looking them up in a database or spreadsheet I have somewhere".
I only share my economy with one person and my highest level of trust is with that same person. It's my wife. She is the one person in this world I would give the label "partner".
Apparently I am holding myself back. I need to collect a few more thousand partners.
Here is a fun thing. I work for Vivaldi Browser. Load any of our websites and you see no cookie banner and no mention of partners.
"But wait" you say, "didn't those terrible Europeans mandate the cookie banner!?"
No, no they did not. We do not need a cookie banner because we are not selling all your shit to every company under the sun.
Also those sites with cookie banners are just doing malicious compliance. This was never about the EU requiring cookie banners!
The one wierd trick to not having a cookie banner is… wait for it… Do not sell out your users!
Who knew!?
Apparently the Fediverse actually did know because guess what, whenever I visit an instance I am also not asked to click through a cookie banner. Again, SO WEIRD!
Chris Hodges@ruari My sole public-facing website is a GPX file visualiser. When I made it public I added a privacy statement:
"Privacy: I don't set any cookies, or store any data. All processing is done in your browser so I have no access to your routes "
It's easy, unless you come from the position that screwing fractional cents out of every page load is a business model
@HodgesC Exactly this!
David Culley@ruari If you don't surveil and sell your visitors, then you don't need cookie banners. It's very simple.
The only ones who don't seem to get this very simple fact are the tech bros trained by laissez-faire capitalists to hate the EU for daring to regulate their privacy invasions.
craignicol@davidculley @mastodonmigration @ruari they understand it. They don't want you to understand that their business model is built on your private data.
Human after all@davidculley @ruari The EU legislated, member states do the regulating and most of them are utterly shit at it
Cassandrich@davidculley @ruari Thanks to being bombarded by bad-faith cookie banners by said tech bros and abusive businesses, a lot of normies also don't get it and believe the lie that "EU requires those annoying cookie banners".
Licho@davidculley Polish government website, gov.pl, doesn't know it either. @ruari
tuban_muzuru... and right from the start of the Internet, we digital types put up little websites for what would become our consulting practices - and people came! Paying Clients, with questions the websites would answer.
The very idea of selling my client list, these are people who have written me checks. No.
I don't get many hits on my consulting site. I've never exhibited it here. Those laissez-faire folks - fugg 'em, I'm going to open a training site, to convert these libertarian jackasses to hard-workin' coders who respect their clients. Save the world thereby
Chancerubbage@davidculley @ruari @mastodonmigration
Oh, there are internal navigation cookies needed in some web design. Especially if the site sells its own wares, or has a search for its archive. Although I was fine with HTMl 3.0 site maps for most sites 25 years back.
jelte@Chancerubbage @davidculley @ruari @mastodonmigration cookies that are used for internal navigation and sessions don't require a banner though
@jelte @davidculley @ruari @mastodonmigration
Seems to me the banners are on EVERY POSSIBLE SITE however.
Some are honest enough to break down if they are ‘necessary’ or ‘for their partners however. While others use that complexity to confuse more.
And most users don’t care. But can and will click away
Brian "bex" Exelbierd@jelte @Chancerubbage @davidculley @ruari @mastodonmigration as long as they aren’t passed through a third party even if privacy preserving, AIUI.
StarkRG@ruari You don't have to warn about cookies that are set as a result of user interaction, such as logging in or setting preferences, only for cookies that are set automatically on load. Just don't do that, and you don't have to mention it. "Legitimate interest" is a legal loophole that lets them create tracking cookies that can't be disabled. Any actually legitimate cookies would be set from user interaction and would, therefore, be exempt from the GDPR notification.
Daarin
txtx 🇪🇺@ruari While I agree on principle, iiuc are there not perfectly valid exceptions to this? If you are a manufacturer, you may need to pass on a person's address to a logistics company for delivery. If you're e-commerce, you may need to pass the address to the manufacturer and logistics firm and whoever else is down that chain. Etc
pixelschubsi@txtx @ruari To pass a person's address you don't need cookies. So no cookie banner.
It's also not required to ask for consent, if the data "processing is necessary for the performance of a contract to which the data subject is party" (Art 6 GDPR 1(b)), which would perfectly cover your described usecase. Consent was really meant as a fallback under GDPR, in the sense of "I have no legitimate good reason to process your data, but I want to do it anyway, may I?"
@pixelschubsi GDPR is not a cookie banner law. It's about data privacy and data sharing. So even if a company is not using cookies to pass private information, they still need to follow GDPR just the same. @ruari
Lux 
@orange_lux If you forward personal data to a logistics/manufacturing firm, customers need to be informed by law — whether you place that information in a cookie banner or somewhere else. GDPR isn't a cookie banner law. This seems to be a huge and unfortunate misunderstanding.
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