zachpiecesThe band Rush just put out a handful of gross and lazy AI-gen music videos. So sick of this trend/degradation
KlankyI don’t understand when someone who is creative in one field uses AI to generate something in another field. Like, how would Rush feel if some visual artist used AI to make crummy knock-off Rush songs with their own art?
In most cases, I expect that moves like this are by the record company/rightsholders/whoever as a cheap cash-grab rather than the artist themselves. Peter Gabriel is a vocal exception to that.
CatoblepasIs this the first time you’ve heard that uploaders get a portion of ad revenue??
The music is the content, not the image. The image isn’t the thing generating ad revenue. You guys are tripping over a placeholder image, made by the guy that did all their album artwork and played keyboard on some of their songs on top of that.
It was this or a static image of their album cover (both of which are made by the same guy, so it’s not like they are screwing over their album artist either).
We don’t even know to what extent AI was used, if he generated the whole thing or just animated it with it. It might not be AI at all.
And having ad revenue doesn’t make everything on YouTube a cash grab, nor is it a cash grab the moment it includes AI. Stop being silly.
It was this or a static image of their album cover
The word “or” here is incorrect. Reuploads of the same song is an apparent method to stimulate views and thus get ad revenue. “Between the Wheels”, for example, has
all uploaded through Rush’s official channel
(both of which are made by the same guy, so it’s not like they are screwing over their album artist either).
Made by the same guy? Why do you think the album artist had anything to do with making and publishing the AI visualizer release?
Between The Wheels
The music is the content, not the image
You initially said it was put up for free as a way to excuse it, now that I pointed out they’re making money it’s fine because the image isn’t what people come there for? In that case why use an AI image to begin with?
The music is the content and what is up for free. The image has little to do with the cash grab or ad revenue aspect of it. Free for us doesn’t mean they won’t make a tiny profit. I fail to see how I’m contradicting myself.
Why not use an AI animation. It literally just makes for a better visualizer.
Oh no is peter pro AI… Damn it I loved him
His recent album I/0 had a bunch of AI videos which is whatever. But after listening to the album a number of times (I’ve been a huge Peter Gabriel fan since “Solsbury Hill” came out) I’m inclined to think that album’s music was AI-generated as well.
I don’t think i/o (or o/i) had AI generated music. A number of the songs had been works-in-progress for years since Gabriel had performed early versions of them live in concert prior. In his full moon updates for each song, there is sometimes footage of the performers in the studio with instruments and even an orchestra or choir at times. I remember specifically he cited Brian Eno’s “electric worms” synths for the fifth track. There had also been a substantial time gap since Gabriel put out his previous album, and he notably likes to mix genres, including world music. If any artist would evolve their style atypically for their age, it would be Gabriel.
Well, good to know.
I feel like I say this a lot, probably because, AI is trying to force itself into my space every day. Anyhow, As a graphic designer_ …
I agree 100% that just because it’s not your expertise doesn’t make it better. I butt up against the need to use music and copy. I don’t write and I can’t compose music. I’m very conscious to not use AI for either, including my day to day when I need to grab stock images.
Regardless how easy it is to do so, their is always something missing. That human touch. I have to explain it more and more and I’m holding to my guns. No AI in the creative spaces, no exceptions.
My biggest take on it, even if someday it does a better job. What are we saying as a society? That we rather give up our creativity and do the menial tasks instead? AI should be handing the boring repetitive tasks, not be the one doing the higher level art, that’s just fucked.
BananaAI, by its very nature, is incapable of capturing the human condition.
No matter how extensive its datasets, this will never change. This is because the human condition is just that, flawed and twisted and emotional, in all the ways humans are, and all the ways programs fundamentally cannot be.
Zos_KiaI think there’s also the notion that people won’t invest emotional time for nothing. It has to be part of a larger transaction with a human being. Even if the transaction is extremely lopsided, as in “I love Taylor swift but she doesn’t know I exist”, it still has to have a human recipient.
A good analogy is psychotherapy. 99% of the work is done by the patient, but it just doesn’t work without the other human. The process absolutely requires an ape to meet with another ape for anything to happen. It would work better with an untrained psychologist, than with the best fine tuned “almost-AGI” model. It’s not about performance it’s really existential. The concept of therapy doesn’t do anything for your brain just like the concept of a strawberry doesn’t do anything for your mouth.
Just like the concept of a rock song or a painting doesn’t do anything for your soul.