Sean ThrailkillMar 10
Timothée Ravier

Fedora Linux 44 Beta is out and all the Atomic Desktops variants are ready for testing: https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-44-beta/

We have two important removals for this cycle:
- Dropping FUSE2 libraries and thus support for AppImages that require them.
- Dropping old polkit pkla rules support

Latest GNOME, KDE Plasma and Budgie releases are also ready.

#Fedora #Atomic #AtomicDesktops #FedoraAtomicDesktops

Announcing Fedora Linux 44 Beta - Fedora Magazine

Download the Fedora Linux 44 Beta today. Test new installer features and the latest software across all Fedora editions.

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Show threadNobodyMar 10

@siosm One of the interesting things in 44 is the better Nix integration, the post briefly mentioned working on support for /nix for Atomics, do you have any info on that?

Or whether it should be recommended? Personally, I'm not a fan of how homebrew changes PATH (system packages may unexpectedly use homebrew libraries), while Nix seems to avoid that.

Show threadTimothée RavierMar 10
@nobody_2454 Support for Nix in Atomic Desktops is still in discussion: https://gitlab.com/fedora/ostree/sig/-/work_items/104
Provide /nix mount point in Atomic images to make nix setup simpler (#104) · Issues · Fedora / Fedora Atomic Desktops / SIG Issue Tracker · GitLab

A continuing pain point for Atomic users is the need to create a custom image just to add a /nix mount point in order to be able...

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Show threadJakobMar 11
@siosm @nobody_2454 Oh that would be great!
Show threadScott TrakkerMar 10

@siosm

I just installed Publii (a static site generator) using the appImage. This will not work anymore in Fedora 44? I thought it was a good idea, because this way I don't have to layer the rpm-package anymore.

Show threadTimothée RavierMar 11
@Scott_Trakker I don't know, it depends on what runtime they're using for their AppImage. It looks like they are also offering an RPM that could be installed in a toolbox and Flatpak support is in progress https://github.com/GetPublii/Publii/issues/1966.
Flatpak Support · Issue #1966 · GetPublii/Publii

Add Flatpak support with flathub submission

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Show threadScott TrakkerMar 12

@siosm

Thanks!

When I install the RPM-package in a toolbox, I can also only executed it from inside the toolbox?

Show threadTimothée RavierMar 13
@Scott_Trakker You can export the desktop entry and update it to run the application. Distrobox also has integration for that. The Application will run in the container but it still has access to all your files.
Show threadScott TrakkerMar 13

@siosm

Ah, okay, thanks!

If the appImage doesn't work anymore in Fedora 44, then I think I will go back to layering the file. I will wait until they have created the Flatpak.

Show threadThorsten Leemhuis (acct. 2/4)Mar 11

@siosm what are the highlights for a better tomorrow that Fedora 44 will bring for Atomic Desktops?

Just asking out of curiosity (so feel free to ignore this, I won't mind!), as to me (who is mostly an outsider in that area) it feels like development of Fedora Atomic Desktops and the tech it builds upon slowed down. You mentioning two things being dropped (which is kinda boring) just contributed to that feeling… Or have I just not been looking at the right places to see the progress that has been made?

I assume it's something like that. Or are there maybe less highlights than usual temporarily because people are busy with important and hard work at the lower stack? Bootc maybe?

Show threadTimothée RavierMar 11

@knurd42 I'm currently writing the post with the highlights for the release 🙂. I mentioned those two removal here to give a another heads up and reduce surprise.

Development is definitely not slowing down. Progress is mostly happening in bootc and we have great features coming (composefs backend, UKI support, new installer Live ISO).

Some will be available right away, some will require us to complete the transition to bootable containers first.

Show threadThorsten Leemhuis (acct. 2/4)Mar 11
@siosm ahh, great, many thx for confirming my feeling is, as suspected, inappropriate; looking forward to the blog post then and thx for taking the time to answer!
Show threadbardMar 12
@siosm Is there a FUSE3 or is FUSE in general gone now? Is sshfs still usable?
Show threadTimothée RavierMar 12
@bard There is FUSE version 3 and maintained applications have moved to it. I don't know specifically about sshfs but it is likely using that now.