Not an American or a liberal, and yes, china is authoritarian. Is america better? No. The credit score system in the US is also bad.

Authoritarian is a meaningless pejorative.

The social credit score isn’t real.

Re: authoritarianism— your opinion.

Some of us aren’t in favour of oppressive regimes that aren’t transparent, surveil, and censor.

“Authoritarianism” is meaningless because all it means is “uses state power.” It doesn’t acknowledge which class controls the state and who it uses state power against. In China, the working classes control the state, and use state power against bad actors and capitalists more than anything else. China is oppressive to capitalists and liberating to workers.

Tell that to the Uyghurs…

There is no genocide of Uyghurs. Uyghur genocide atrocity propaganda akin to claiming that there’s “white genocide” in South Africa, Christian genocide in Nigeria, or that Hamas sexually assaulted babies in Operation Al-Aqsa Flood.

In the case of Xinjiang, the area is crucial in the Belt and Road Initiative, so the west backed sepratist groups in order to destabilize the region. China responded with vocational programs and de-radicalization efforts, which the west then twisted into claims of “genocide.” Nevermind that the west responds to seperatism with mass violence, and thus re-education programs focused on rehabilitation are far more humane, the tool was used both for outright violence by the west into a useful narrative to feed its own citizens.

The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective’s Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.

I also recommend reading the UN report as well as (especially) China’s response to it, which eclipses it in size and detail.These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, Christian nationalist and professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does. Zenz’ work has been thoroughly discredited, yet is supported by western media for its utility in fearmongering. An example is lying about 8.7% of new IUDs as 80%, to back up claims of “forced sterilization,” from this chart:

Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time as well. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn’t going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this. Has there been mistreatment? Almost certainly to some degree, in a campaign as large as this. Is it genocide, be it cultural or outright? No, Uyghur culture is preserved and there are no mass killings.

Quote all the bullshit you want Cowbee. The world knows the truth 🙂

Please explain how what I said is “bullshit,” I even included the UN report. Why do you like Adrian Zenz?

ushmm.org/…/report-eight-years-on-chinas-repressi…

uhrp.org/uhrp-united-nations-tracker/

hrw.org/…/china-unrelenting-crimes-against-humani…

theguardian.com/…/china-uyghur-muslims-xinjiang-m…

www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62744522

Shall i go on? Your propaganda wont work.

Abuses and genocide are 2 very different things. If you want to talk about the abuses during the ETIM crackdown and what was done wrong etc that’s definitely possible but you should really stop spreading the genocide narrative that smears mud on this real serious conversation.

Funny how you immediately thought genocide… wonder why 🤔