"China is AuThORItAriAN!" - Liberals

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Not an American or a liberal, and yes, china is authoritarian. Is america better? No. The credit score system in the US is also bad.

Authoritarian is a meaningless pejorative.

The social credit score isn’t real.

Re: authoritarianism— your opinion.

Some of us aren’t in favour of oppressive regimes that aren’t transparent, surveil, and censor.

“Authoritarianism” is meaningless because all it means is “uses state power.” It doesn’t acknowledge which class controls the state and who it uses state power against. In China, the working classes control the state, and use state power against bad actors and capitalists more than anything else. China is oppressive to capitalists and liberating to workers.

I haven’t much evidence for the claim: “In China, the working classses control the state”

sure you will say that is my western bias from living with china bad propaganda, but you could actually provide something to me read on topic if possible

Sure!

The Chinese political system is based on whole-process people’s democracy, a form of consultative democracy. The local government is directly elected, and then these governments elect people to higher rungs, meaning any candidate at the top level must have worked their way up from the bottom and directly proved themselves. Moreover, the economy in the PRC is socialist, with public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy. Combining this consultative, ground-up democracy with top-down economic planning is the key to China’s success.

I highly recommend Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance. Socialist democracy has been imperfect, but has gone through a number of changes and adaptations over the years as we’ve learned more from testing theory to practice. Boer goes over the history behind socialist democracy in this textbook.

The working classes in socialist countries are the ones dictating the state and its direction.

Socialism in Power : On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance - Anna’s Archive

Roland Boer; This book examines the historical development—in practice and theory—of governance in socialist syst Springer Nature Singapore Pte Ltd Fka Springer Science + Business Media Singapore Pte Ltd