What is your cinema hot take?

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What is your cinema hot take? - Lemmy.ca

I don’t really care about Star Wars

I don’t want big name celebrities doing voice over for animated movies. Give me actual VAs
Is Mark Hamill an exception? Or is he a voice actor that happens to have done some face acting as well?
he was a face actor until that car accidentwampa fucked it up.
Yeah, but the wampa never acted again, so I think justice was done. Their career is over.
Mark is a voice actor that has done some on screen work. I don’t care much about star wars and his joker and trickster is peak. Note though him in the long walk was epic.
You’ll probably get a kick out of this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-VHe_4GmE
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based on his voice work as Skips from Regular Show, most definitely he’s actually got the chops for it.
Casablanca sucks. Also, most “refined” cinema is a fart-sniffing competition of one-upsmanship in how much a person can endure meandering nonsense disguised as commentary.
One-upmanship time! My take - Much of the movies in the Criterion collection suck.
I didn’t like it either.
I mean, it’s a hot take, I’ll give you that. I can’t agree with it, though. Every line of dialogue in that film moves plot. It’s really well edited and far ahead of its time. Modern cinema owes a lot to the lessons taught by Casablanca.
Cinema popcorn is inferior because they can get away with low quality. There’s plenty of good popcorn around, but it’s rarely found at the movies.
I’ll hottake that hottake: cinema popcorn is amazing (around here at least), and I think a lot of that comes from key ingredients they use. One is “Flavacol” seasoning, and the other is butter-flavored coconut oil. Makes a world of difference, assuming you like a buttery taste.
I’ll hot take your hot take of that hot take: Cinema popcorn is best the day after a movie when it’s stale

That’s when it tastes like plastic IME. Big yikes from me, but different strokes for different folks.

Btw, I happen to love crispy popcorn, and figured out that you can rescue stale popcorn & other snacks by tossing them in the air-fryer a little bit.

lol It’s cool, I know not many people like it. I also love other weird things like candy corn and valentines sweetheart candy. I do draw a line at black licorice though.

Good tip on how to refresh stale popcorn though!

Cinema popcorn is 60% of why I want to go to the movies. My local cinema changed popcorn maker and now it’s not as fresh… I am not as excited to go to the movies anymore :/

So some tricks from ex cinema employee. Use canola oil and yellow Popcorn kernels and a Aluminum bowl That you can buy from a restaurant supply store.

  • salt kernels before you cover then with oil.

  • Fill the oil to just enough to cover the kernels.

  • Then cover the bowl with Aluminum foil. And roll the bowl over the stove on medium heat. Till it starts popping

  • then use More canola oil for butter Lightly Spritzed in a spray bottle.

  • That will give you perfect theater popcorn at home.

Optional secret ingredient Tajin instead of salt

except the chocolate popcorn at Seattle’s Cinerama SIFF Cinema. That stuff is to die for.
I like special effects in very cheap or very old movies: it gives me that “wow, how did they manage to do that in 1925?” feeling. I like that feeling. Modern quality effects I just ignore. Some very detailed explosion in the space? Ok, something exploded. I noted that plot point.

I can still find modern special effects interesting enough if I find them aesthetically interesting – as though a lot of thought clearly went into them. I understand there were minimal hurdles to translating that vision to film, but it’s the vision itself I appreciate.

I also definitely get the same feeling you do watching older films and especially stage plays, where the constraints of the medium make it even more impressive.

Same. I still appreciate modern effects tho but those old movies really impress me. Have you seen The Johnstown Flood? That one kinda blew my mind
As much as I have issues with 2001 space odyssey, it is a technical marvel for its time.
Same. I watched Citizen Kane for the first time a year or two ago, and some of the shots blew my mind. Like how the fuck did he do some of that shit?
How do you feel about something like Fury Road, where they make a point of including practical effects?
Were there any effects? I thought they just filmed some documentary in Texas or something…

Texas has changed a bit since I was there last…

Precisely.

Part of the awe of watching movies (The so-called movie magic) is that at the same time as you’re in awe of the film, there’s a part of you in awe of how much collaborative work it took to create that stunt/effect/miniature, etc…

There’s no magic anymore when one can just do the same thing in Blender at home if they had enough time to learn.

‘Man With a Movie Camera’ is great for this.
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National Movie theaters are now trying to show UFC and sports games. I support it. Because there’s a lot of abandoned movie theaters and I would rather them fill seats with anything, than become the dying empty malls.

Also, I don’t go to national movie theaters. My local neighborhood theater charges $5 for movies and $3 for pizza and popcorn.

In a cinema I used to go to, they used to show the Met’s operas during the Sunday matinee. Absolutely lovely!
Thats sick, I’d love to watch ufc at a theatre.
Marvel Super hero movies are boring besides some of the jokes. Every main character is basically invincible, fights are pointless.

Except for those who died, I guess?

Scnr 😁

But Actually, that’s what I found to be a good thing: letting characters leave, finishing their story. Captain America, scarlet witch.

My hot take is I still watch the series of movies in hope for good stuff but most has passed.

One guy wrote a very true thing: when was the last time superheroes actually saved someone like they originally did.

Superman did, but it’s fair criticism for marvel.

I also agree, some of these movies get so fucking epic that I just don’t care. I miss the human drama that takes place in a lower scale.

Not that infinity war wasn’t fun, mind. But now it’s not even enough to just fight for the world, but we have to fight for the multiverse!

I’m sure Doomsday will be good because the Russo brothers have made all of the best marvel movies, but it feels a bit “y’all haven’t liked shit since we killed everyone off, so here they are again.”

But post-infinity war I’ve basically only enjoyed the TV shows. Thunderbirds was pretty good. FF was… fine? Compared to previous FF movies, it was great. But it didn’t land for a lot of people.

But Hawkeye was good. I really enjoyed Ms. Marvel. Echo was a decent spinoff. Looking forward to new installments of the Defenders characters now that the marvel Netflix people are largely back. Shit, I’ll even be interested to see if they can make the Finn Jones Iron Fist work this time. But Colleen Wing was the best part of that show and I hear she isn’t coming back. And the Falcon and the Winter Soldier was so much better than the Captain America movie.

Anyway the TV shows all have a limited scale and it gave them so much more heart.

You’re right about the latest superman. I really liked the movie and him, although mostly the dc stuff was taking itself waaay to seriously for me in the past. (personal preference)
Justice Gang. I need a Justice Gang movie. Guy and Mr. Terrific were SO well executed.

So… 60fps exists… why don’t we just use that for movies lmfao? (is this even a “hot take”?)

I like Revenge of the Sith more than every other Star Wars movie, including the original trilogy… (I like the volcano planet lightsaber duel)

Also as an introvert… I never went to a theater… 🏴‍☠️ (Did I miss out on anything?.. I like the ability to pause so… 🤷‍♂️) It’s not like Christopher Nolan is gonna get a heart attack over this lol

some people aren’t used to it en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_opera_effect
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I get it… I’m not used to my IRL “Origin Story” feeling like straight out of a movie plot either lmfao

The Hobbit trilogy was filmed and released in 48 fps (in theatres only, now lost media), and pretty much everyone hated it.

I saw it and can confirm it looked really fucking weird. I thought I’d get used to it after a while but the effect kept pulling me out of the movie throughout the entire runtime.

cause it looks like shit. films, aka movies, have had a certain look and feel to them since the beginning. when you have the resolution and frame rate too high it looks like youre looking at actors on a soundstage. its too clear. it disables the suspension of disbelief.

60fps exists… why don’t we just use that for movies

Originally because it felt like tv shows, which were shot in 60 fps and were pretty shitty from the artistic standpoint.

as an introvert… I never went to a theater

As also an introvert, I can report that you’re not forbidden from going to movies alone nor are required to interact with anyone other than getting to your seat. The theatre is not much of a wow factor for me personally, but others likely get more out of it.

I’m just happy with myself for sitting through a whole movie. I have no idea if it was good or bad. It’s always good I sat through a movie.
Movies are going to go away because either no one has the attention span for them or they want a full season of prestige television.

The Disney-churn Marvell/Star Wars slop has ruined the film industry. No one is willing to risk a thing on original IP when remakes/reboots/continuations are taking in the bank.

We will never see another Stranger Than Fiction, or Dead Poets Society or, Eternal Sunshine while the low hanging fruit is such a hot commodity. And it will never not be a hot commodity.

So really we should vote with our wallets and agree to not watch cinema pollution like that then
Sadly, I think that slop flicks will remain popular the same way and for the same reasons McDonald’s is.
Waaaay ahead of you. It’s too bad way too many people still watch that shit enough to justify it.

I agree with your point about established ip being safe and attractive to executives.

I disagree with your point about “never see another eternal sunshine” type movie. Everything everywhere all at once. The substance. Sinners. There are gems.

We will never see another Stranger Than Fiction, or Dead Poets Society or, Eternal Sunshine

Original movies like that are still being made, much much more than ever before.

But not in Hollywood. And you won’t get a trailer for those movies fed to you by Youtube’s algorithm, you have to look for them yourself.

My recent favorites were Flow and Outrun (both from 2024).

Yeah people will only consume content that had been marketed to them then turn around and complain that no original stuff is being made :'(

It’s funny cause I’m old enough to remember the exact same thing being said during times that are now considered a golden age.

This was a problem before Marvel or the Star Wars reboots. Execs will always go for what seems safer and an established IP with a fanbase is safer than something brand new. A tale as old as time.
And they’re right. People are more willing to pay for things they’re familiar with. People keep blaming movie studios for doing what People clearly want.
Also cinema is so old that nothing new happens. The same problem occurred in the 30s, 50s, etc… each time needing a “new wave” to break the execs out of their trance.
Who controls which movies make money? The audience does.
Who controls which movies are produced?
They choose based on what will make money. People keep complaining that they have the nerve to produce what people will most likely pay to see
You’re proving my point without an effort. Thank you.
The same thing happened in the 50s with big budget epic movies trying to appeal to everyone, I think Cleopatra was at the tail end of it.