IntrepidExplorerMar 9
Toby Jaffey
If you call Claude "he", but refuse to respect a fellow human's chosen pronouns, then you go in the oubliette
#subtoot
Mar 9 at 1:49pmWeb
Show threadbenMar 9
@tobyjaffey I haven’t seen someone specifically doing both but it’s depressingly easy to imagine.
Show threadAria <3 Mar 9

@benjamineskola @tobyjaffey "on the internet, everyone and everything is he/him"

- some people, probably

Show threadbenMar 9
@ariarhythmic @tobyjaffey To be fair the only thing worse than people using masculine pronouns for their chatbot is people using feminine pronouns for their chatbot.
Show threadAria <3 Mar 9
@benjamineskola @tobyjaffey right.
Show threadsoloMar 10
@benjamineskola @ariarhythmic @tobyjaffey bcachefs lol
Show threadUrban CameraMar 9

@tobyjaffey

I always thought they were addressed so because they don't stand up for all the massive mistakes they make....

Show threadLongplay GamesMar 9
@tobyjaffey I call it an it, but I respect a human's pronouns, so I guess I'm in limbo :D
Show threadRachel RawlingsMar 9
@tobyjaffey I call "Claude" "clod", which is gender-nonspecific and also more accurate.
Show threadjohndugginsMar 9
@tobyjaffey oubliette is such a good word. and fitting.
Show threadAndy in IndyMar 9
@tobyjaffey Periodic reminder, back when they were glorified secretaries AIs were all “she” with names like “Siri” and “Alexa”. They didn’t become “he” until they gained agency and authority.
Show threadSzabó Em, Enigma He-Art Director Mar 9
@naptowncode @tobyjaffey LLMs don't have agency nor authority? You're giving them way too much credit
Show threadErinMar 9
@jadedtwin @naptowncode @tobyjaffey they don’t actually, no, but they’re perceived that way by the AI hype now. They’re literally called “agents” by their fanbase. The sexism point still stands.
Show threadjtbMar 9
@tobyjaffey I just asked them what they preferred and they didn't mind.
Show threadCaycedoMar 9
@tobyjaffey as Carlin said. It has to be a he because no woman can fuck things up like that
Show threadTired SpongeMar 9
@tobyjaffey I like that. Not enough oubliette usage anymore.
Show threadBob LeFridge  Mar 10

Today I learned what oubliettes are. ;-)

@retrosponge @tobyjaffey

Show threadPeter ReevesMar 9
@tobyjaffey I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I thought Claude was an "it"? I swear I read somewhere that Anthropic stated that Claude was officially an "it".
Show thread♿ 🏳️‍🌈 La pantera rojaMar 10
...And no Hoggle will save you.
Show threadDa_GutMar 10
@tobyjaffey oh that is a really nice point!
Show threadoldherlMar 10
@tobyjaffey To be fair, "he" is not the pronoun chosen by Claude, either.
Show threadGhostOnTheHalfShellMar 10

@tobyjaffey

I think it would be funny to give it every kind of pronoun imaginable in such a way as to send the right wing into a frenzy

Show threadasieMar 10
@tobyjaffey ah, but it is internally consistent! see, in the first case he forces what he thinks are the right pronouns on Claude, and in the second case he forces what he thinks are the right pronouns on a fellow human

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Show threaddgelessusMar 10
@tobyjaffey Is calling Claude "he" even correct? Claude is an ambigously-gendered name (at least in some languages like French) - I assumed that was on purpose...