SkavauStarfleet Academy Director Jonathan Frakes Says Fan Hate Is ‘Dimensionally More Painful’ Today Than in the Next Generation Years
Katherine 🪴I think the problem is that the internet is more prevalent and mainstream than back then. Like newsgroups could be downright toxic, but the majority of fans didn’t see them.
When I was watching TNG, it was either at my dads house watching it on television or discussing it with my friends in school.
This. TNG would trigger conservatives if it were in today.
Remember when Ricker feel in love with the non-binary alien and they had a whole discussion about pronouns? It’s been thirty years and these guys still aren’t over shit like that.
Yeah, the only reason there wasn’t a concerted anti-woke campaign against Trek back then was the technology just didn’t exist to enable people with minority opinions like that to easily find each other.
Still, they were there. I remember some BBS Trek guys being “that guy” at a few Trek conventions in the 90s, they were just usually solo or in tiny groups.
Boomer Humor DoomergodHell, TOS triggered them. The problem is that they’re all anybody hears these days.
Imagine if TNG season 1 got bad reviews but because of the tone of the reviews they didn’t bother changing anything. It wouldn’t have gotten better.
TNG actually DID get reactions like that, but they were on little newsgroup boards and shit where only serious nerds saw it. The whole origin of “i remember when startrek wasn’t for hippies/feminists/gays/liberals/etc.” sentiment originates with TNG criticism.
It was just as stupid then as it is now, but now we all apparently have to hear it.
I know, I’ve been to
alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die. But imagine if those nerds were used as an excuse not to change course. What if they said “Frakes, you can’t grow your beard or those nerds win.”
When fucking who???
The internet for the common man didn’t even exist in 1987. By the time TNG went off the air, it was still largely AOL chat rooms.
DS9 and Voyager were the shows for the online generation.
🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞The internet for the common man didn’t even exist in 1987.
True, although the internet is slightly older than most (or at least many) realize: 1989 saw the first internet company with access to the public. One of the services offered was access to Usenet. And before that, BBSes has started to offer Usenet access.
Of course, the internet didn’t really explode until around 1996, I’d say. But it was growing before that.
Not invalidating your point. I think this stuff is interesting. :)
I think the problem is that a lot of the current Trek shows are poorly written and waste good casts. Programmable matter? Dumb. “I swallowed my combadge”? Barf. A crying alien is the answer to why every starship in the universe suddenly explodes? Just awful.
Disco had is problems, but SFA is really a solid series and honestly I would rank it over SNW in quality. Have you actually seen it instead of complaining about minor details (the combadge, I agree that the burn was idiotic but that ship sailed with disco already)