psychOdelic she/herBreaking: BAD
EnkrodIf it takes 30 Episodes to not be boring, it’s not a good show.
BB wasn’t bad though, I just was completely unable to connect with it.
Exactly, well written, well acted but the absence of sympathetic protagonists killed it for me. I just couldn’t care.
I don’t blame you for not being able to watch a show without any sympathetic characters. I’m the same way. But I disagree about Breaking Bad not having any sympathetic characters though. I felt like it did. Yes, they were doing heinous stuff. But I feel like they did a good job at showing the main characters’ humanity despite the poor choices they have made.
But I do understand why you would see it the way you do. Shows resonate differently for different people.
cRazi_manI gave it up at season 2 when I first started watching.
Then I watched Better Call Saul years later and it was one of my all time favourites. Then I went back to Breaking Bad and liked it even better than Better Call Saul. Breaking Bad didn’t resonate with me initially and I’m so very glad I have it another chance.
B-TR3EThe second season really became boring as fuck somewhere half through it. Totally missed the density and speed of the first season. I think the fact that they got a contract to produce three seasons made them stretch the plot to the point where basically nothing happened over certain episodes. Compare that with the speed in which the early plot moved…
‘Severance’ must have like fifty seasons planned.
I’m crying inside 'cause I heard something along these lines in some random blog/post/idr. :c
I want it to end in a good place & at the right time before it grows a GoT season 8.
I can’t imagine they’ll try to go past 5, but I hope the next one is the last.
Though I’m a bit biased - IMO the last episode of season 2 was a perfect ending, and I’m completely satisfied.
Did you watch the movie el camino after bb? We just finished both for probably the 5th time, will watch bcs again this summer.
It’s not a great movie, but it wraps up Jessie’s story pretty well. I liked it. Solid 7 in the BB universe.
I’m completely up for watching average media. When did we become too good for average? 5/10 is enough for me to give something a shot. Maybe even 4/10 if someone tells me it had some nugget of value.
Oh, I watch “avg” shit all the time. Anaconda only got a 4 on imdb, that shit was amazing. I don’t trust the numbers always. And siskel and ebert rated tommy boy the worst movie they’ve ever seen. Lmao. They can’t be trusted with reviews.
Somewhat similar experience for me: I tried watching Twin Peaks in the late 00s, couldn’t get over the hammy melodrama of the first few episodes, abandoned it.
Fast forward to five years later, watch Fire Walk With Me, loved it. Revisited Twin Peaks and completely devoured it.
Sometimes coming back to something after you’ve grown/changed as a person can be nice.
Alternately, there’s a lot of stuff I thought was genius in my 20s that is absolute crap.
thenextguyI remember watching it. I don’t remember anything about it.
The joke is that episode 30 “Fly” is famously the lowest-rated episode of the series. At 7.9/10.
Interestingly, that was the episode that made me stop watching.
I suspect I just don’t normally like watching shows about miserable people making other miserable people even more miserable, which made the fact that I really enjoyed Boardwalk Empire a surprise.
Guess there must be some other element to it.
Hm… yeah, I get that (not the part about Boardwalk Empire, haven’t seen that yet). Most people in BB are definitely miserable!
I liked BB a lot, especially on a second watch through many years later, but the main reason is probably just that I can understand why each character behaves the way they do - the writing is consistently “realistic” in a manner I haven’t really seen anywhere else with a comparable length.
☂️-It’s my fave ❤️😁🤌
I hate watching shows where you’re supposed to hate everyone. BB is one of those shows. Like how is that entertainment?
MinnesotaGoddamdo you MST3K comment on your shows or do you sit back and take them in?
do you make fun of your shows and shout “no don’t go in there” and whatnot and have puppet shows during breaks and pretend you are a little robot stuck in space (go watch Mystery Science Theater 3000 seriously) or do you sit and enjoy cinema as critics and only the snootiest frenchmen demand cinema to be experienced? they’re both valid and fun, just y’know, they’re very different experiences
My wife and I complain about shows constantly (I’m talking about the shows and movies we like!), pausing to point out every little thing, and I’m in absolutely no way a movie critic, in fact I hate most shows that critics like. If I was to watch a show where I hated every character I would be pausing every five seconds (this isn’t hyperbole, I’m being serious it would be every five seconds) to complain more and more. The show isn’t enjoyable when there’s literally zero reason to like anyone in it.
oh, the difference is we don’t pause it.
I agree about the fact that watching those type of shows is not enjoyable. But not everyone feels that way about Breaking Bad, including me. Yes the main characters do a lot of wrongs, but the writers do a good job at showing their humanity and didn’t portray them as “evil” people.
one piece is awesome bro, i swear bro you just have to sit through about 150 episodes bro where it’s kinda bad bro, but eventually it’s good bro.
Why did people hate ‘Santa Barbara’? Because it existed to churn out endless drama that led nowhere.
I haven’t watched ‘One Piece’ and not ever planning to, but there’s no way that over a thousand episodes that go on for twenty-six years deliver any kind of a meaningful story that gives me something to think about.
Ironically and chaotically: you should try it.
The visual style takes getting used to. The funny but deeply serious style also takes some getting used to. It’s similar to JoJo’s bizarre adventure in that way. Jarring and confusing if you don’t get it, but it quickly makes sense once you let down your walls. It’s goofy and charming and inspiring as hell.
I seriously think it’s really worth a real try. I’d be very interested to know your thoughts after even like… ten episodes, if you do try it.
First ep is an arc all on its own, the next three is another arc, and then the next few are into the next arc. They just get longer and deeper each arc, is what happens. Even thinking about it makes me want to rewatch it again. It’s so good.
Absolutely not. I’ve just recently watched the two seasons of ‘Severance’, wherein Ben Stiller evidently thought himself to be modern Kubrick. For the foreseeable future I’m not watching anything that’s more than ten episodes start to finish (with an exception for ‘Berlin Alexanderplatz’). I want stories where the author has something to say, with beginning and an end, and I have a large backlog of classic films.
Severance? Is that the office/private mind division show on Apple streaming?
It looks like it has high reviews on imdb, even per ep except for s2e8. But even then, looks like the seasons started and ended strong. What didn’t you like about it?
But also, wanting something with a strong message is totally understandable. Not that one piece doesn’t, but I do understand what wavelength you’re on. For me, that comes in moods. Sometimes I want popcorn, other times I want philosophical provocation, and sometimes, I even want an answer, not an open ended series of impossible questions each leading towards depression or madness.
‘Severance’ has a great premise, strong atmosphere, and is overall made very well. Except it’s stretched beyond measure. The second season in particular has lots of shots where absolutely nothing is happening, just some landscapes or whatever for minutes on end. It’s painfully obvious that Apple or whoever decided they’re gonna have twenty seasons instead of three.
I like Kubrick a lot, love the space station shots in ‘2001’, and even then when in ‘Spartacus’ platoons of soldiers were marching to formation for ten minutes, I straight up fell asleep in my chair. I certainly don’t want an entire show of this, especially with the possibility of it ending nowhere.
One piece is a designed story in the same way Dragonball is a designed story.
DestideSeason 3 was when I really got into the show. The problem wasn’t that the first two seasons were slow, they were just really dour.
Same, why do people like watching shows where you hate everyone? There’s no one to sympathize with!
You sympathize with aspects of each character and synpathize with different struggles.
Everyone has done something wrong in real life, and I like seeing that represented in a show.
Jesse is the good guy of Breaking Bad, imo. Dude’s worst crimes are being addicted to meth and listening to Walt’s advice. Hard to feel hate toward a pawn.
I never make it to that point, because if there’s only one redeemable quality of each character there’s literally no reason to watch the show at all. I want entertainment, not to be reminded of how shit people are.
and some people want to analyze character motivation under duress
Dude’s worst crimes are being addicted to meth and listening to Walt’s advice.
I guess assassinating the other chemist qualifies as “listening to Walt’s advice”, but murder is technically his worst crime.
It does. Jesse commits evil acts because Walt backs them into a corner, then puts all the risk on Jesse’s head.
Jesse’s not blameless, but he would have gone broke smoking his own meth if left to his own devices. I suppose I see Jesse as more of an accessory to Walt’s plans, even when he’s pulling the trigger. His arc is kinda heartbreaking, because he essentially just wants to be as good of a cook as Walt until he becomes Walt and realized he just wanted to be Jesse all along.
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HossenfefferI felt breaking bad would have been better as 3 seasons instead of 5. The middle just dragged on too long.
Ricky RigatoniYou really did need to watch the entirety of malcolm in the middle after season 3 to get the full lore.
Not really everyone lives happily ever after