Wow look at those default screenshots. They look horrible, what a mess.

A useless sidebar, a lot of mess in the homepage, stupid shit being pushed to you.

Everytime i install Firefox i need to do a huge config setup to remove all that useless crap

Guarantee you can turn off the sidebar.

You can. For now.

They already have this and it can be disabled. Why not use it for three seconds?

Because every now and again, it’s a new three seconds. First it was the password manager. Then Sync. Then Monitor. Then AI chatbot.Before all of that it was a bunch of other things. Then it was the side tabs. _You gotta check them out!* Now it’s this.

For me as well, I need to use the firefox profile creator website to get rid of all these things. It takes a good few minutes to configure. But for someone who may not know about the website? At least half an hour to thoroughly go through Preferences, and most things aren’t even there!

Dynamic colors are cute and fun.

Sure!

Until you try putting them on an old laptop. Because why would anyone be using an old laptop in 2025 2026? And then, how dare they expect to be able to browse the web? (Because static sites to download useful stuff apparently don’t exist, nor do people who’d like to do that which don’t know about curl).

This isn’t just a Firefox problem, it’s a global one. Instead of functionality, what’s preferred is aesthetics. Instead of accessiblity, how accessible able people feel it is. Instead of performance, bloat.

Most of these things could be optional, Firefox Approved First-party add-ons or integrations, but this isn’t the route this timeline has taken.

You can. For now.

my god you’re right, they’ve sold out to Big Sidebar. the problem with their Sync is that it has no self-hostable e2ee option and you need to use Firefox servers that use Google stuff. comparing apples and rotten oranges most of this is silly

Yeah, because for Windows, when you accidentally hover over the weather widget for 0.5 ms longer than some programmer decided will force you to connect to MSN.

Mozilla is clearly immune to analytics and took a hard stance that didn’t and will never change, so pardon me for entertaining your thought.

Because the Sync icon won’t become a auto-opening popup from Big Sidebar, because tge designers won’t come up with the brilliant idea

• Hey, how can we make the numbers seem like more people are using MSN (or Sync)?
• Just open it whenever an unlucky soul hovers over it accidentally. They have 50ms to run across it if they really don’t want to use it!
• Wow, what a great idea!

This talk at M$ can never happen at Mozilla, from what we’ve seen in the past 5+ years.

This isn’t ideologcal creep that can be forestalled by purism and hatred of sidebars 😭 the corporate side of Mozilla with push that stuff whether or not you complain about the occasional good thing they do. Please get a grip

One of the most irritating things about their management is these delays, the worst of which can be seen with Thunderbird/Betterbird situation. Community has been waiting years for shit that was already fixes to be added & they won’t add QA testers