@tstruthers @bert_hubert @jwcph

That ia a lesson the open source / linux community has to learn.

That means that it is very important to be able to implement versions with enough look&feel to make transitions easier.

(In other words: you want to be able to drive through the software as if it is the same sort of car.)

@vosje62 @bert_hubert @jwcph agreed, look feel and functionality is important. I would say not changing to Linux in my career has been driven but changes to familiarity of interfaces and management for me more than anything but the gap and knowledge on that has shrunk significantly. The key thing though, that I've seen over and over again is, you cannot change orgs tech stack's from the engineer level.

Nerds get how to transition, as I said even when we do understand it that process can still take months. Security initiatives, like most tech initiatives fail, because there is no executive buy in. Not just from the CIO or CISO, but from the CFO and CEO. These are hard to gain traction without showing both limited business disruption and increased value, but also with a coupling of regulation and law.

Ultimately for Europe to kick the big tech habit, it has to include thought leadership, which I appreciate Bert leading well, and also resilience regulation. At minimum we need to be having a discussion of where our data is held, what do we do if we lose access, and how does that impact our business resilience. I like that this conversation is gaining traction, but it still feels like it's missing in most board rooms.

@tstruthers @vosje62 @bert_hubert @jwcph except this is all a fiction.

I agree entirely with the sentiment but MS changes the game completley with every 2-3 releases anyway.

Start bar, the ribbon, constant pushing to save in onedrive, task bar to dock, IE to edge to new edge, teams refocus on "updates", conversations in outlook, complete binning of UIs for a new one (outlook, whiteboard) on and on it goes.

Moving the UI around to confuse the shit out of the users is the modus operandi of MS, and if we're saying there's intertia because people are familiar with it, that just can't be correct. At best it must be that decision makers THINK their users are familiar with it.

In my honest and considered opinion ofc!

What some competitor would be best to do is create 3-4 modes of what the UI looks like, that correlate to different generation of MS apps, and provide a clear and easy way of selecting the appropriate one.