Mike Griese
Terry Godier
Dave bauer@tg I've been thinking about this for 20 years, every time I need to enter a form. Also when I have to scroll and scroll to enter a date instead of typing!
Ken Butler@tg it seems to be a standard thing when supplying a UK address to start with the post code (zip code equivalent) and then to select the address (there are only a few houses that have the same post code). I've done the same in Canada too.
Rob š³ļøāš Rartsy Humanist
Daniel Durrans@nxskok @tg My favourite forms are the ones where you just start typing the street address and it very quickly works out the rest.
I live on a street with about 100 houses sharing the same UK postcode.... starting postcode first usually means I end up scrolling through 50 āhouse numbersā before I find mine.
Leo RĆ© Jorge
Matt Hall
TomĆ”s LĆ”zaro@tg this is pretty cool but I donāt follow the claim that zipcode can determine country, the 5 digit code from US overlaps with other countriesā postal codes.
robryk@tg
> I type 90210. (...) You didn't need me to scroll past Turkmenistan.
Turkmenistan also has zip codes. It seems they are a digit longer, though. However, e.g. Germany has 5 digit zip codes.
> I type 90210. (...) You didn't need me to scroll past Turkmenistan.
Turkmenistan also has zip codes. It seems they are a digit longer, though. However, e.g. Germany has 5 digit zip codes.
Thierry šŖšŗ
Klaas Pieter Annema@tg this has been almost standard for Dutch sites as long as I can remember but for some reason fails to catch on in the US.
Filip@tg
I agree with the intention of making the form more usable, but the advice seems a bit US-centric. If you follow this advice completely, you'll make your form inaccessible to some people. If you do want to go in this direction, at least confirm the country first, and don't use `inputmode="numeric"` for the postal code unless you know that's true for that country
I agree with the intention of making the form more usable, but the advice seems a bit US-centric. If you follow this advice completely, you'll make your form inaccessible to some people. If you do want to go in this direction, at least confirm the country first, and don't use `inputmode="numeric"` for the postal code unless you know that's true for that country
Konato
notsoloud
Annika Backstrom@tg Consider: ZIP code first, but it's a dropdown
EndlessMason
Gabriel 
@EndlessMason Ironically, that would be faster than some of the forms I had to fill because I know how to find my house on a map
@Gabriel
This is one of those off-the-cuff silly ideas that the longer you sit in them the longer you wonder if you're doing too good of a job for the room you're in or too bad of a job for the room you're in.
This is one of those off-the-cuff silly ideas that the longer you sit in them the longer you wonder if you're doing too good of a job for the room you're in or too bad of a job for the room you're in.
bit101@tg As others have said, there are problems with international addresses, but those are solvable I think.
The worst is when I enter my address and city and country and then the zipcode, and then it tells me that my city is wrong and wants me to fix it. Like if I put "Brookline" and it wants "Brookline Hills" (not my actual city).
But yes, if you know all that data from the zipcode, just enter it for me.
quotequack@tg
it pisses me off Ć¾at Ć¾ese Ć¾ings are not standardized
it pisses me off Ć¾at Ć¾ese Ć¾ings are not standardized
Baloo Uriza@tg This just straight up automatically hits at least two of these incorrect assumptions. The biggest one is there's vast swaths of the western US that have no ZIP code. Also, ZIP codes correspond to postal routes, not cities: 97229 covers Portland, Beaverton, Aloha and Bethany in Oregon. And that's just on one street!
https://www.mjt.me.uk/posts/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-addresses/
š Andrew āļø@BalooUriza @tg I came here to say this, itās a nice idea but it straight up doesnāt work and canāt be adjusted when it doesnāt. Iām not in the US and it doesnāt even run the query on my input.
@bnut Don't get me wrong, still put the ZIP first, but _only_ to ballpark things. It shouldn't fail just because someone changes the city, state, county, province or country. Could be improved further by putting the country first, then the ZIP. That _probably_ covers all bases unless there's some stateless addresses I'm oblivious to.
@BalooUriza @tg I think you could put the zip first, then country, and filter every fieldās suggested values based on the previously entered data. That minimises typing. Although importantly: donāt assume those suggestions are sufficient and allow manual entry.
@bnut Where my thinking's at on putting the country first is that it narrows down the assumptions somewhat, since that immediately narrows down if postcodes are numeric, alphabetic, or alphanumeric, and how long. Especially since I know that the US is *bizarre* in that our postcodes correspond to postal routes, not geographically compact areas, and having both 5 and 9 digit ZIPs.
@BalooUriza yeah, I get it, but the post code is still less typing (if you have one).
In theory entering any field first is fine, just some are better than others. For example, if you put suburb first then ę°å®æåŗ is probably going to narrow down the countries to one option.
@bnut No such luck in the US, which has 19,495 cities and (only a slight exaggeration) 350 place names between them. Canada has similar issues on a smaller scale for similar reasons.
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