WanderWisley

Low effort president, low effort meme

https://lemmy.world/post/43979601

Mar 8 at 2:24amWeb
Show threadIlovethebombMar 8
There’s at least three people in the background also wearing hats though?
Show threadYurkshireLadMar 8
True but he’s wearing a baseball cap.
Show threadIlovethebombMar 8
Is there an established procedure for this though, is he supposed to take off his hat?
Show threadgiantripdropMar 8
Yes, and yes
Show threadvaultdweller013Mar 8
To further elaborate, the rules around uniform hats is entirely different than casual hats, you are supposed to remove a casual hat as a sign of respect while a uniform hat inherented the rules of helmets and are treated closer to combat dress. Is it a bit stupid? Sure, but it’s entrenched in old as fuck traditions and customs that go back at least to the medieval period.
Show threadIlovethebombMar 8

Right, that’s good to know.

And you’d expect someone to have filled him in on these rules, too.

Show threadvaultdweller013Mar 8
Trump doesn’t give an iota of a fuck regardless assuming he even has enough intellect to process such traditions and rules. Reminder he saluted a North Korean general once, which I don’t think I need to elaborate why you shouldn’t salute someone from an adversarial nation.
Show threadHacksawMar 8
You’re such a fucking bootlicker. Stop acting like there is plausible deniability here. Everyone knows you take your hat off as a sign of respect. You take your hat off to go to church, which he supposedly does all the time. You take your hat off at the dinner table for gods sakes. You certainly as fuck take your hat off to show respects to 6 people you got killed for a war you started to cover up the fact you raped and tortured kids with your best friend at pedo snuff film Island.
Show threadIlovethebombMar 8

See, that’s the thing. Not everyone knows this, it’s not obvious to everyone, and this was posted with no explanation as to what the procedure is.

And given multiple other people in the photo are wearing hats, it’s a reasonable question to ask.

Show threadSharkticonMar 8
No, they are in uniform. Big difference.
Show threadpulsewidthMar 8
They are following the correct military protocol, Trump is not.
Show threadJasonDJMar 8
Ahh that’s his dress trucker hat.
Show threadPeppycitoMar 8
Looks like Vance is keeping his eyebrow from falling off his face.
Show threadSGforceMar 8
So far. The 6 that he’s sacrificed so far.
Show threadFlexibleToastMar 8
The president isn’t military, he’s not even supposed to salute. I know it’s become expected, but he is a civilian. Ignoring that, the only disrespectful is the type of hat he is wearing. You’re actually supposed to wear your cover outdoors, look at the actual military members in the photo. There are so many legit reasons to hate Trump we don’t need to make ones up.
Show threadMongosteinMar 8

Isn’t the president commander in chief?

I’m not American, this is a real question

Show threadFlexibleToastMar 8
Yes. That’s not a military position, that’s a civilian position. The ironic part is, the military is commanded by a civilian to keep the military in check…
Show threadmannycalaveraMar 8
LOL how is that going for USAians?
Show threadFlexibleToastMar 8
Yeah, exactly the “irony” part.
Show threadscarabicMar 8

Actually very well. You don’t understand the point you’re trying to make. The military being commanded by a civilian to keep the military in check is about keeping the military from ruling the country. See: Pakistan, Myanmar.

What you see is the civilian government throwing the military around carelessly, not the military getting out of check.

If you want to laugh about something, laugh about how the checks and balances between the 3 branches of government have broken down, not about the military ruling over the people.

Show threadmannycalaveraMar 9
Oh no we’re laughing at that too 🤣😅
Show threadpulsewidthMar 8

Correct, and as he’s not military the preferred sign of respect is to remove his hat and put his hand over his heart. Like all prior presidents (whom have not served) do, and as other civilians in this photo are doing.

Trump has a long history of giving zero shit about signs of respect to the military though, so I’d say it’s always worth pointing them out for the crayon eaters that still vote for him in droves.

Example of a different enfeebled elderly president that actually respects the military signalling his respect to the fallen:

Show threadvaultdweller013Mar 8
Also just to further snub Trump but Biden looks pretty good in his suit, well tailored and fitted to him. Unlike Trump who somehow wears clothes more I’ll fitting than mine, difference is I can’t get my clothes tailored and have a weird as build.
Show threadvzqqMar 8
His expression is giving “I really need to poop” rather than “respect for the fallen”, but his tailoring is on point.
Show threadvaultdweller013Mar 8
Hey when you need to shit you need to shit. Nature and biology care little for ceremony, for example Gestures at pile of heat striken privates during ceremony though I’m not military I grew up around enough veterans to know how common that is, also witnessed it happen twice while in boy scouts.
Show threadSoulgMar 9
Maybe but I interpreted it as him feeling actual genuine sorrow since his own son died in service, it probably was a reminder
Show threadvzqqMar 9
Oh right. In hindsight, that was a callous comment on my part.
Show threadChickenLadyLovesLifeMar 8
There is no way you would want to see Trump in a suit fitted to him.
Show threadKandaMar 8
Isn’t the commander in chief technically military?
Show threadscarabicMar 8
My question too. At the very least he seems like a singular case where it’s unclear.
Show threadpulsewidthMar 9

Not technically. Yes, they’re the Commander in Chief, but they maintain civilian status. They oversee the military, but are not actually a member of the military. This is also why they cannot be prosecuted under military law or court martialed.

Can’t find current link on Defense website, but here’s an older one: web.archive.org/web/…/newsarticle.aspx?id=45870

Defense.gov News Article: Why Civilian Control of the Military?

Show threadcalmblue75Mar 8
Fascists have this weird tendency to appear as if they are soldiers. Attire, manner, etc. Remember Hitler?
Show threadraman_klogiusMar 8
But at least Hitler was enlisted, not a draft dodger 🤭
Show threadLaserMar 8

Yeah, that’s the thing, for Hitler, that military boner made sense, he was drafted, fought in the war, was injured in the war, and was disappointed that he couldn’t fight after his injury. Guy actually loved participating in war. Him appearing in uniform at least made some sense (even though he only had a very basic military career if one can even call it that).

Donnie just loves the power he can exert with it, and I’d be ashamed as a soldier to serve under a draft-dodging racist bitch boy who makes fun of veterans. Let’s see how it turns out.

The best and safest way to sabotage the military as a soldier is to follow every order to the letter.

Show threadVictorMar 8
Must be embarrassing to be literally worse than Hitler.
Show threadLaserMar 8
Not sure I want to make any comparisons between those two where one is better or worse than the other, they’re both despicable for their own reasons; there is some overlap in their non-qualities but they’re much different in what motivates / motivated them
Show threadVictorMar 8
Shh, I just wanna say he’s worse than Hitler. Don’t read into so much.
Show threadLaserMar 8
Virtue-mogged by Adi himself smh my head
Show threadmercMar 8
I’m not sure why wearing a suit and a MAGA campaign merch hat is trying to appear as if he’s a soldier. If you mean the salute, presidents have been doing that for ages. The general public knows so little about salutes and related protocols that they’d take it as disrespectful if he didn’t salute.
Show threadBranBucketMar 8

Was it Regan who started returning salutes when saluted by military members? I’m not 100% sure but I want to say before that most presents just acknowledged the salute and went on. I seem to remember it was Ronnie that started the trend.

I can’t think of any recent presidents from either side who would have caught dead pulling the maneuver on this photo, however.

Show thread0_o7Mar 8

They’re fucking hitting schools, hospitals and water facilities and this is what you’re arguing about?

Respecting the people that just commited war crimes? And your take is how he should acshually do it?

Fucking hell.

Show threadFlexibleToastMar 8
When did I say to respect anyone? You’re making my point for me. There are tons of things to be legitimately mad about, we don’t need to make ones up.
Show threadHarvey656Mar 8
I mean to be fair, we were told it was a low effort meme.
Show threadmercMar 8

To add to what you said, the origin of the salute is related to headgear.

One potential origin of the salute is knights raising their faceguards, which obviously requires you to be wearing one. Another potential origin of the salute is the courtesy of removing your hat in the presence of a superior officer. You still see this (though mostly in period historical dramas) with the hat tip.

The military still retains that link, you’re not supposed to salute while wearing your hat. For civilians, the equivalent respectful move is to remove your hat in certain situations. These days you mostly encounter that at a sporting event where people sometimes remove their hats during the national anthem.

So, for a president who isn’t part of the military, the official protocol is probably to stand at attention while not wearing a hat. An acceptable modern alternative is to salute, and since hats are uncommon these days it’s mostly to salute while not wearing a hat. Saluting while wearing a hat is probably a reasonable variation on that. A disrespectful move would be to wear a hat and not salute. Of course, the fact it’s a MAGA campaign merch hat is disrespectful in itself.

Hat tip - Wikipedia

Show threadlennybirdMar 8
I kind of thought he’s hiding something at this point with the hat. What condition?
Show threaddeadbeef79000Mar 8
What condition isn’t he hiding would probably be a shorter list.
Show threadBigFigMar 8
Dumb shit Vance isn’t even using an American salute.
Show threadMinnesotaGoddamMar 8
so i’m not up on the uniform code recently, but since disphit here isn’t in uniform shouldn’t his hand be over his heart?
Show threadBigFigMar 8
Yes, and the vice president is even LESS military than the president. Just a warm body on standby
Show threadGraniteMMar 8

Doesn’t want a breeze to come along and make him look like

Show threaddaanniiMar 8
Apparently he sells that hat on his website and was promoting it.
Show threadlemmylommyMar 8
At least he is not saluting a North Korean general this time.
Show threadsonofearthMar 8
fucked raped ✅
Show threadathatetMar 8
Yeah. He did that too. Then he also murdered and ate them.
Show threadswitcherooMar 8
The nasty thing was probably mad that he was forced to go and pretend to care about “suckers and losers”…
Show threaddoesitMar 8
Melania is obviously tired of this shit. Just waiting for the Night of the Long Knives so they can all stop pretending.
Show threadVictorMar 8
Not sure why Melanianus is holding her tit. That’s not where the heart is located.
Show threadphneutralMar 8
She has none.
Show threadVictorMar 8
Matter fact, none of these assholes are holding their heart.
Show threadWIZARD POPE💫Mar 8
Testing for breast cancer.