Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then? đŸ€” Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...
@nina_kali_nina A pro-AI OS? I'm getting too old for this.
@nina_kali_nina it looks like postmarketos has some amount of work done on the m1 (nabbed from asahi stuff) and i believe they have recently put out a 'no-AI-generated-code' statement. you will have to use pmbootstrap to build a device image yourself because M1 support is still in their 'testing' repo but pmbootstrap is honestly some of the best and friendliest linux device image build tooling i've ever used
@nina_kali_nina looks like more than i thought is working well actually, i just had to find my way to the wiki page for the generic aarch64 mac support: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Apple_M-series_Macs_(apple-mac-aarch64)
Apple M-series Macs (apple-mac-aarch64) - postmarketOS Wiki

@rudi it sounds a bit complicated... I don't want to break an existing OS by mistyping a command or something. :<
@nina_kali_nina wait... wasn't the default Linux on Arm mac arch btw?
@nina_kali_nina also did you decide to move on from macos because of the vista-inspured UI?
@petko Tahoe is painful to look at, it's full of "Apple Intelligence" stuff (that for now can be disabled, but newer versions might not have the knob for it), newer OS will drop the support for Rosetta 2 that I quite like, and eventually they'll drop the support for the device itself. So I thought I should prepare to be moving off the MacOS, as I don't plan to get a new Apple computer in the future.
@petko it was, long time ago. It's been Fedora for a couple of years now, I think

@nina_kali_nina

> mixed opinions about gentoo

fwiw, I'm running gentoo on linux still. It's decent.

Not sure how good it is on arm mac tho

@nina_kali_nina no fan of debian ?
@otyugh well, I'll have to stay on pre-AI debian :3 It's kind of iffy to have python3-llm-anthropic and such in the main repo

@nina_kali_nina Damn. I read it from you and forgot >_<

They seem to still fidget around not doing anything decisive : https://lwn.net/Articles/972331/

Darn. Wakey wakey :(

Debian dismisses AI-contributions policy

In April, the Gentoo Linux project banned the use of generative AI/ML tools due to copyright, e [...]

LWN.net
@nina_kali_nina @otyugh full agree, and also the phrase "pre-AI Debian" is sending me into a tailspin. How the hell did I end up to the left of Debian on the issue of "do licenses matter"?
@nina_kali_nina did you try Asahi Linux?
@ssekret Asahi Linux _is_ Fedora Remix
@nina_kali_nina if you have time to spare Gentoo is really a fine distro. You'll have to spend some time and effort installing it, but you'll get all that time back in the following years as it's a breeze to keep up-to-date and its flexibility allows you to change it at your will while without having to reinstall
@gabrielesvelto I wonder what the community is like đŸ€”
@nina_kali_nina Gentoo user here, the community is pretty chill and helpful. Not what you find in Arch communities, for example. Every time I had an issue and asked on IRC, they never questioned/judged me, just helped me straight away.

@nina_kali_nina the forums used to be very helpful, but I haven't used them in years because I know how to handle my system. I mostly used the docs/wiki. They have a strong stance against slop generators which is good, as well as a CoC tough it's probably a bit lighter than I'd like (e.g. it's not explicitly calling out a number of behaviors I consider unacceptable):

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct

Project:Council/Code of conduct - Gentoo wiki

@nina_kali_nina How is fedora pro-AI?

@tarxz they explicitly allow AI contributions (as long as they're marked as such): https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/542

Though it is an increasingly common stance, unfortunately.

Issue #542: Council Policy Proposal: Policy on AI-Assisted Contributions - tickets - Pagure.io

@nina_kali_nina Feels like that'll end up being the stance of most projects unless there are legal/licensing consequences :(
Apple Silicon (Asahi) - The Void Linux Handbook

@speaktrap they don't have a strong stance on LLM usage, it seems. đŸ€”