tomasinoMar 6
Okay, now #Proton is out. @Tutanota is in. Transition was smooth & easy. Getting DNS transferred over for my custom domains was a breeze. Imports all worked. Apps seem decent. White label worked as advertised. So far so good.
Show threadjanus_kMar 6
@tomasino @Tutanota Well done. Proton is complete garbage in my opinion, and I feel they can't be trusted with your personal data. I was using their VPN for a while and out of nowhere, I started getting very specific targeted ads. I can't prove it, but I think the VPN client logs and sends your browing history to all sort of third parties.
Show threadElleMar 7
@janus_k @tomasino @Tutanota before making such claims please make sure that you're not leaking your info in myriad other ways. VPNs are useful in certain situations, but they offer little privacy overall. I can still track your cookies, fingerprint you, etc. And if you log into your accounts while using VPN, it doesn't matter that I don't have your real location.
Show threadjanus_k
@hostia @tomasino @Tutanota When you're using a VPN for five years without incidents, and you start seeing targeted ads the very month you change to Proton, then you must accept there's something wrong with the company and its privacy practices. No, not all users are as stupid as you think.
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Show threadElleMar 8
@janus_k @tomasino @Tutanota Apologies, didn't mean to come off as condescending. Still, I'd implore you to dive deeper into the issue, reach out to support for a comment. Personally I never experienced that, but I also delete cookies and history upon exit, which is a good practise regardless of your trust in a provider. That being said, I'm not shilling for Proton – I use many services, Mullvad and Tuta included (one of my faves tbh), but I'm wary of starting conspiracies or spreading misinformation.
Show threadjanus_kMar 8

@hostia @tomasino @Tutanota That's how I have the browsers set up. Cookies gone right after closure, all opt-in privacy features on, a good (non Proton) VPN with open source clients to handle the connection, no Google as search engine and no Chrome either. Sure... you need to believe me, an anonymous user, in my experience. But you also need to believe Proton, because they offer exactly zero guarantee of not leaking your data, save for their word.

In general, I don't trust the large VPNs... because there's always the risk that they've been making cash in other ways than providing a tunnel.