PragerU is starting to get it

https://lemmy.world/post/43941718

Almost like the root cause of one of them is maybe the other one… Nah couldn’t be.
I fail to see how private means of production and exchanging goods for currency in a market economy is the cause of Climate Change or how to create any other kind of system. Countries with publicly owned fossil fuel industries aren’t producing cleaner oil.
Isn’t it one less set of people at the top overconsuming? (Politicians v. Politicians & oil barons)
Yeah but the people at the top overconsume in every nation, and the more corrupt that nation the more they consume regardless of whether their flag is red or blue, meaning the problem comes from corruption not from the economic system. So either oppose every nation or oppose corruption, but when I see people talk about “destroying capitalism” on the fediverse it usually just boils down to them supporting autocracies.
I think the issue with capitalism and environmental degradation moreso comes from that fact that capitalism requires evermore resources for evermore economic growth.
No, that’s not a problem specific to capitalism.

“Never believe that anti-Semites people like this guy are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites people like this guy have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

Jean-Paul Sartre

which other system demands that the line go up at any cost?
All of them. Which doesn’t?
ah okay you’re trolling, have fun

The problem is optimizing things for a small subset of people.

The large majority of the people will eventually revolt, however the longer that time takes to come the more they will have been addled and weakened by the few.