Mastodawn

GrapheneOS: Talks shit about Fairphone and their 'ancient' hardware on socials, not considering them as an option at all.

Also GrapheneOS: Partners with Motorola/Lenovo despite more devices in their lineup having relatively mediocre chipsets than not.

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F3715H Mar 6

@maddy I think @GrapheneOS are just sellouts at this point...

I don't trust any phone and just have a "#StupidPhone" I can rip out the battery and dump into a faraday bag into my fridge.

That does way more in terms of security...

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GrapheneOS Mar 6

@F3715H @maddy No money has changed hands between us and Motorola and we specifically said we don't want devices sold with GrapheneOS to have a significantly higher price so that we can get significant funding from it. It will be possible to install GrapheneOS on the devices for free. How is it selling out to work with a company where they improve their devices to meet our requirements and they get to earn more money while what we get are more devices meeting our requirements for our users?

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GrapheneOS Mar 6

@F3715H @maddy Using a dumb phone means only having insecure carrier-based calls/texts. They also lack a way to use them without cellular instead of having a mobile computer usable without it including for secure communications via Wi-Fi not revealing your location to the cellular network.

Temporarily disconnecting means that attack surface is temporarily gone and data can't be exfiltrated until later but it still would be. If you think it's backdoored why couldn't they include another battery?

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F3715H Mar 6

@GrapheneOS @maddy That's literally the point.

I don't trust any network or device and use @torproject / and @tails.
- All that any mobile network sees is Tor-tunneled traffic.

#Tor #Tails

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GrapheneOS

@F3715H @maddy @torproject @tails Interpreted what you said as using a dumb phone where you wouldn't be able to have Tor as you can on a smartphone that's a mobile computer with cellular support but maybe we misunderstood.

GrapheneOS has a bunch of VPN leak fixes with more being developed to turn Android's VPN leak blocking into a fully working feature. iOS and Android don't treat VPN support as a critical privacy feature upstream. Android tries to fix actual leaks unlike iOS but very slowly.