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Funny how "AI" advocates are always like "yeah but if we ignore the negatives for a moment ..."

That's fiction then. I might as well talk about how great fossil fuels are assuming they don't have any negative effects on the Earth's climate.

And you're free to write fiction, but don't try to sell it to me as real.

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Show threadup/downMar 6
@aesthr Seems to me that selling fiction as reality is exactly what these LLM services are all about...
Show threadnone gender with left politicsMar 6
@aesthr @atax1a the ends never justify the means
Show threadmx alex tax1a - 2020 (6)Mar 6
@vikxin and yet effective altruism is centered on the premise that the ends justify the means, etc etc
Show threadnone gender with left politicsMar 6
@atax1a so is fascism. Weird, that
Show threadmx alex tax1a - 2020 (6)Mar 6
@vikxin staring, camera, etc
Show threadGaëtan PerraultMar 6

@aesthr of course, Technology Connections did that whole video where he ignores the pollution effect of fossil fuels, and they still lose!

https://youtu.be/KtQ9nt2ZeGM?si=Z6Hj-xkEKhwyzCGW

You are being misled about renewable energy technology.

YouTube
Show threadrefraction Mar 7
@aesthr so aside from climate change, and the pollution from extracting and transporting them and the fact that they fuel authoritarianism cause they are relatively easy for a centralized power to control, and the wars over them, they are like, really convenient, you know? let's focus only on that for a moment cause for some reason I feel that that is the important part.
Show threadWayne WernerMar 7
@aesthr if you ignore the part where the leopard eats your face, how would you rank your leopard-face experience?
Show threadthe_blackwell_ninja [EST]Mar 7
@aesthr Very well put!
Show threadmahadevankMar 7
@aesthr agreed - some folks are talking about AI as an abstraction layer and i heard “deterministic automation” which, well, what can i say
Show threadJacob Ibáñez 🔒Mar 7
@mahadevank @aesthr I so wanna know (no, I don't) how the stochastic slop machine can make a deterministic automation 🤡🤡🤡🤡 🤦🤦🤦🤦
Show threadOwlor Mar 7
@aesthr I've run into a lot of AI defenders who act like the only reason people oppose AI is on copyright grounds. I genuinely have no idea why they are under the impression AI will spearhead a post-copyright utopia that justifies its environmental impact, but somehow "AI is not teechnically stealing" fails to be a compelling argument.
Show thread🅘🅢🅜🅐🄹Mar 7
@aesthr It all started with Socrates’ Critique of Writing where he faulted writing for weakening the necessity and power of memory, and for allowing the pretense of understanding, rather than true understanding. (Phaedrus 14, 274c-275b). There is some truth to his concerns but, Would you prefer for humanity to not have developed Writing and Reading?
From then on we've seen criticism for every new technology: the Radio, TV, newspapers, the Elevator, Cars, the Internet, etc, and now AI.
They are tools.
The problem is what it always has been: misuse, corruption. The people in power (or with power) that utilize those tools or promote them in ways to enrich themselves and keep themselves in power. Like how in the US politicians are lobbied (legal bribe) to not invest in public transportation and Train systems as to keep the use of gas high both in cars/trucks and air travel. That doesn't mean cars are inherently bad or that they're not necessary or convenient in today's society. Or the big corporations banking on AI to replace workforce & "save" money only to backfire.
Ignoring the benefits of AI as a tool is as equally bad as ignoring the negatives of it.
Show threadMason Loring BlissMar 19

@aesthr The hardcore boosters ignore the possibility that there are negatives. It never enters their minds, at least as they communicate. It's become a faith, a religion, and anyone who differs is sadly backwards. If they have any doubts, you will never catch a glimpse of them. And no one is going to be the first to stop clapping.

The world was already very unsafe for many people. Now there's a new religious Crusade. It's horrifying.