@otterlove

Gonna say this here: human beings have produced crap code, to the point where we're writing ten times more tests than code.

True I wouldn't vibe code a car. But I wouldn't trust any of these jackasses running around telling me AI is so awful. The craft of software has never enforced any standards upon itself.

@tuban_muzuru @[email protected] wouldn’t vibe code the tests

@birkenator

The stupider the humans the more tests they have to write.

@tuban_muzuru truly smart people don’t write code at all

@birkenator

You left out the part where people have a tenuous relationship with the truth.

That's why I laugh at all these Thickies squeaking about how I wouldn't vibe a car. Because that's exactly what happened with my whiz-bang shiny Chrysler Pacifica and its audio system.

@tuban_muzuru yeah critical things are definitely getting vibe coded. I have seen it myself…

I wonder if this is how old school programmers think of those of us that started out in the 2010s with our shitty JS dependencies and half baked frameworks.

@birkenator

As a consultant, I've come to realize humans are far more dangerous than machines.

They lie, Birk, The people lie.

@tuban_muzuru yeah the humans will be more dangerous until skynet. I so consulting too i feel you.

What’s your expertise at work?

@birkenator

I retired, after a career mostly in robotics and integration, fairly low level stuff.

Got myself a new lightweight codin' box, Linux fedora 6.18.13-200.fc43.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Feb 19 19:54:01 UTC 2026 x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ free -h
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 15Gi 10Gi 419Mi 2.3Gi 5.7Gi 4.8Gi
Swap: 8.0Gi 2.4Gi 5.6Gi
dweese@fedora:~$

.. learning Rust, Cande and Python over the last year.

My Codeberg:

https://codeberg.org/dweese/rabbitmq_workspace

rabbitmq_workspace

Refactoring into effective projects, egui-components, rabbitmq_config and rabbitmq_ui

Codeberg.org

@otterlove

Oh god I just asked myself how much pressure is probably being put on the people who write self-driving software for cars and I kinda never want to be on a road again now.

@anthracite @otterlove There's basically a 100% chance that this is happening.

@otterlove

You have no idea what I'd vibe code. 👀

(Nothing. It's nothing. I wouldn't vibe code _anything_.)

@otterlove No, but I once met a guy who would
@otterlove a vibe coded car would be worse than a trabant lol
@jadedtwin @otterlove When it got released, it was actually quite competitive and modern. It's just if you stick to stuff for 35 years, things don't seem to get better over time.
@helge @otterlove I have cousins and friends who grew up with a trabi has their family car (one of them got their finger caught in the door once and the door broke lol). They're honestly pretty ingenious given the limitations and embargos that the DDR dealt with
@jadedtwin @otterlove I grew up with one as the family car!
But seriously, the tech was quite good when it was introduced in the 60s sth. It just didn’t evolve, like at all.
@otterlove i am pretty sure they would but would they drive one and go for a walk while everyone else drives one?

@otterlove About that…

There was once a Nazi called Musk
Who poured satellites into the dusk
He vibe coded a truck
The rich don’t give a fuck
Now the earth’s just a smoldering husk

@otterlove I think multiple companies are literally doing this.
@otterlove I have Claude and a 3D printer. You can't tell me what to do.
@otterlove common sense is the least common sense
@otterlove
Tesla cybertruck might be close to that?
@otterlove i'm surprised OTA updates haven't resulted in ransomware on a car yet
Software update failed: Did Elon Musk remotely disable Ramzan Kadyrov's cybertruck? Russian leader feels s

Elon Musk has been accused of disabling a cybertruck that was given to Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov, who has ruled with an iron fist in the region for the better part of 17 years. In a post from his Telegram account, Kadyrov claimed that the vehicle had been 'remotely disabled'.

Economic Times
@otterlove Actually: Yes. I would rather vibe code a car than building one only based on my limited knowledge. But on the other hand: I would probably not build a car in the first place, with or without help from an AI.

@dummzeuch @otterlove You actually wouldn't want that because when you try to do it on your own you'll fail but if you have an AI do it and it claims to have done so and you don't know how to check that so you assume that it's right...

Well you could get as far as driving down the road before you realize it never added a breaking system.

@otterlove I work in robotics, you can be damn sure AI is being used extensively.
@otterlove have you seen a modern automotive's electronic backend bus? it might as well be. 😉💀
@otterlove This is the first time that meme ever made any sense at all. I would totally download a car. I still don't know how that was even supposed to be implied to work, but I'd totally do it. But I sure as heck would not want a "vibe coded" car.