TaggartOh hey are you looking for a Vim alternative?
Helix has replaced Vim/Neovim for me almost entirely. I install it first-thing on new devices.
And the devs, far as I can tell, are not using AI, nor adding first-party support for it.
For those interested, I did a demo/intro of Helix a while ago:
Live Session: Helix Intro
Kat S@mttaggart Thanks! I'll investigate its Lisp integration later this evening.
I'd actually forgotten about Helix. Apparently I'd mentally filed it as "looks interesting, but let's see what happens as it matures."
crow@mttaggart I also have switched to Helix! It's fast and snappy in a way nvim with all the usual plugins I have installed just isn't. It comes with the plugins I typically install in nvim just baked in. Bonus, it's rust!
+1 for helix
+1 for helix
Caden@mttaggart I will definitely consider it once the plugin system is implemented. Until then I think I'm stuck with Neovim
Red@mttaggart Did you include that last bit simply as a disclaimer, or because Vim devs are using AI?
@mttaggart for the love of god is nothing sacred!?
Well. Thanks for the heads up and the alt recommendation.
Well. Thanks for the heads up and the alt recommendation.
Fritz Adalis@mttaggart
A new editor that's not electron? Inconceivable!
A new editor that's not electron? Inconceivable!
Yoh Deadfall@FritzAdalis @mttaggart, and it's not the only one. There's Lapce which made using Rust too.
Jordi (Tubal Hippy)This confused me for a moment because I cleaned the bathroom this morning.
Herr TurTur@mttaggart
Thanks, i'm putting it to a test right now - looks promising!
Thanks, i'm putting it to a test right now - looks promising!
Robert [KJ5ELX] 
@mttaggart I wanted to troll you with a "nano" repeated a bunch of times but then I saw the git repo for Helix. That looks slick I might try it out.
CyberFrog@mttaggart I've started exploring this recently too, previously I had a very default vim install with a barely working LSP because it was "good enough" for me
Helix is a good improvement over that out of the box, and the multi-cursor editing is interesting, might use this from now on tbh
Helix is a good improvement over that out of the box, and the multi-cursor editing is interesting, might use this from now on tbh
Jeremy List@mttaggart one of these days I need to get around to packaging Helix for every OS I regularly use.
Karl@mttaggart The only thing preventing me from not installing vim at all is fugitive, its reblame capabilities are not yet available in helix. I otherwise use helix all the time.
Craig Askings@mttaggart oh I definitely need to give this a go. I’ve seriously tried about three times to setup neovim and failed. All I want is LSP and some basic themes.
Going over the docs it looks like a sub 5 minute task in Helix
raptor 
@mttaggart too much vim muscle memory here, I’m afraid. I tried helix, I liked it, but I can’t really use it… even with custom key mappings I can’t get it close enough to vim. And the evil-helix fork is just not mature/complete enough and has some weird bugs.
aburka 🫣@mttaggart I tried it a while back and its command language is similar yet different enough to vim that I'm afraid both wouldn't fit in my brain. But after this recent news I'm definitely going to take another look
nieuemma@mttaggart I love Helix! I never got far into Neovim. Plugins are not my thing. I love that I don't need to add a bunch of stuff to Helix to make it good.
Ken Butler@mttaggart trying this out.
railmeatWhat’s wrong with Vim now? What have they done?
Wheelsbot7@mttaggart I can recommend Helix for its ability to work "out of the box" (i.e. without any extensions). Built in LSP support, tab suggestions, and formatting mean any mainstream language will just work without any configuration.