Lately i have noticed multiple strange uses of the collective “we” on fedi.

“We” are going to war with Iran, “we” bombed schoolchildren, “we” have failed to build an efficient railroad network.

I'm a bit boggled by how even progressives (even leftists?) identify with their national goverments to the point of incorporating into a single “we”.

“You” did not do any of that. Your government and your ruling class did it in your place, in spite of you.

@magitweeter On one hand, yeah - I do this all the time and I probably shouldn't.

On the other hand, "we" in the collective sense really are doing incredibly stupid shit that the ruling class exploits to make things worse. Go to a community meeting and people are screaming about communism & bike lanes, lack of parking, trans people or immigrants or whatever nonsense is their latest bugaboo. It's sobering to see something that is in our best interest (like homeless housing) attacked by neighbors

@Andres4NY I'm not entirely sure what the «stupid shit» is that you allude to. Is it being loud about irrelevant stuff in community meetings?
@magitweeter Fighting improvements; that means calling their electeds, being loud at community meetings, etc.

@Andres4NY It's still unclear to me why you identify with such a “we”. I certainly don't.

Separately, “calling their electeds” means appealing to the not-“we” who actually make the decisions, so in a sense it's a different version of the same thing.