We, as a society, have to bully all people who wear those glasses. They have to be excluded form all social gatherings and we have to make fun of them everywhere they go.

But why THE FUCK are Meta workers watch the material? Ah, it's Meta. Of course, they're watching.

@wackJackle Guess we will find out in time if they can do facial recognition on incoming headbutts. This creepy techbro invasion will not be tolerated, already got the Nearby Glasses app...
@ulfr Oh, they can. And they immediatly search the web for all information of the person from Social Media and co. There are already apps doing this.
@ulfr @wackJackle Nearby glasses app?
GitHub - yjeanrenaud/yj_nearbyglasses: attempting to detect smart glasses nearby and warn you

attempting to detect smart glasses nearby and warn you - yjeanrenaud/yj_nearbyglasses

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@wackJackle that is creepy. Somebody coming up to me wearing these is an invitation to suck hospital food through a straw.

@wackJackle It's Meta's Kenyan sweatshop workers who have to manually tag objects in video in order to train their AI. So they watch these things and go "poop, very loose" and "penis, very small" just so that next time when the AI looks at things it can pretend to be smart.

What a time to be alive.

@0xtero @wackJackle and they're not even employess, most probably contractors with not much health coverage to treat their PTSD.
@mdione @wackJackle Yup, same as their content moderators.
@wackJackle In other news, concentration camp guards need therapy for their trauma.
@wackJackle Wow. It's a funny prank I guess.

@wackJackle I decided to do a different unit at uni because the unit coordinator of the one I planned to sign up for was wearing these.

I didn't have to interact with him, it was a fully online subject, but still, ewwwww.

@wackJackle out of interest: is the problem that its meta (and the massive privacy problem) or the "smart" glasses by themselves?

this would be something, if properly working as free soft/hardware, that I would love to play around with, cutting out all the privacy violating stuff.

it its the glasses themselves, can you elaborate?

@brahms Mostly it's Meta but it's also those 'smart' glasses. I don't want to live in a society in which my counter-part just record everything.

@wackJackle understandable.

I wouldnt really want to record (and store) anything, but rather experiment with AR features, like screens and stuff.

it should definitely not make anyone uncomfortable, but for me it would probably be fine to use them in confined surroundings, anyway. Interesting point to keep in mind, thanks!

@brahms @wackJackle They probably do not have the resolution to record say, the flying of a small radio controlled aircraft from the pilot's viewpoint. That would require an accurately aimed high-res camera mounted on a helmet. Reasoning would be inability to work the camera and fly the plane at the same time.

Thus, an otherwise interesting use for an open source varient of smart glasses is probably blocked by limitations of the camera lenses and sensors.

This of course has no bearing on say, Project Veritas wearing them to record "private" conversations, fash and cops wearing them to record protester's faces, undercover cops using them to trap sex workers, etc.

Speaking of sex, I wonder how many of these Meta employees wait for sex footage to come up and jack off to it. Also note that if they get put on a table and forgotten and people have sex within view of them, its nonconsensual porn.

Normal video cameras are rarely left running on a table unless facing a wall and running as an improvised way to hard-overwrite a camera card from which spicy footage has been "deleted."

I think if you were about to get in the sack with someone you'd be far more likely to notice a full size camcorder than a pair of glasses.

@brahms @wackJackle It's not your privacy they're violating. It's the privacy of every other person you encounter while wearing them. It doesn't make it any better that you personally are the one violating their privacy, rather than letting Facebook do it for you. Either way it's a violation and not acceptable.

@dalias @wackJackle yeah, if the use of smart glasses imply a privacy violation. What if it doesnt? I find the assumption quite irritating.

It is quite easy to imagine a use that doesnt touch anyones "privacy" other than "seeing" them. my question is, are people uncomfortable by the mere existence of such glasses? How would a project engage these people and mitigate those worries? or is this something that will never work?

@brahms @wackJackle It does. That you see this as a probem to solve rather than a boundary to respect is deeply concerning and is what's wrong with the entire fucking "tech industry".

@brahms @wackJackle You do not "engage with people" and "mitigate their worries" when you want to do something to them that they don't want done to them.

You fuck off and stop doing it.

@dalias maybe the choice of words was poor, sorry for that.

though what I am doing is asking others who obviously have strong objections and trying to understand what they object to (btw, I am full on your position about the privacy topic).

i am talking about a hypothetical implementation that neither stores nor sends any data that would be relevant. Maybe that is technically not possible, but then I wouldnt use It anyway.

@brahms What you're not understanding is that nobody you face with those glasses on has any basis for knowing or trusting whether there's a claim that they don't store or send anything. All they see is a camera pointed at them.

Even if they did, you could still be doing plenty of harm without storing or sending anything. You could for example be a running a local model trying to identify them.

Assuring people that this is not happening is not possible but should not be the point. The point is that if someone doesn't want you pointing a camera at them, you don't point a camera at them.

And until you find out, you don't point it at them.

@dalias its embarassingly obvious when pointed out like that! Thank you!
Meta Workers Say They’re Seeing Disturbing Things Through Users’ Smart Glasses

Meta contractors in Kenya told two Swedish newspapers that they're being told to review highly sensitive footage recorded by smart glasses.

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@wackJackle the term "glasshole" lives!

@wackJackle Hopefully a couple high profile cases of these glasses being either punched or snatched will deter their use.

Best of all is if people we don't mind seeing get arrested (e.g fash) punch them off the faces of people we don't mind seeing punched (e.g other fash).