Ada Worcester 🏳️‍⚧️Mar 5
The most surreal thing about AI coding shit taking on is the revelation that so many people who do this thing that I love, seem to have no care for the craft at all. Even people who I would have pointed at, years ago, as those who clearly care. And I know it has always been Just A Job for many people, but holy shit, do you even care a little bit?
We humans are not merely bad at it, we have people who have been doing the work with no desire to be good at it in the first place.
Show threadThis Panda Eats Pumpkins

@pikhq

that's the thing tho

coding was always "just a job" to me, it's part of why I burned out

I do enjoy some minor coding as a hobby when I'm free to make actually good software I guess

but the strictures of professional dev do not allow you to make good software

my skills deteriorated because the stuff I wanted to learn to do my job better felt futile, because it would never be adopted, and I'm frankly not doing Java/Spring dev unless I'm getting paid for it

but I'm still not gonna hand-in fucking copilot slop because I have to have SOME self-respect

Mar 5 at 7:20pmWeb
Show threadmookrakerMar 5
And less animosity toward your coworkers who'd have to figure out what the fuck that slop is making it do later, I suppose. (If I understand the situation correctly.)
Show threadSnowFoxMar 5

@annarcana @pikhq IME that depends on the company (namely the type of work/how expressive they let you be). That said, I found it helped to have personal projects that were exciting and completely unrelated to what I did at work.

AIUI one of the marketed features of Java (to management, not programmers/users) was to be able to treat programmers as interchangeable — sadly I don't have a citation, but it explains the lack of features like goto and operator overloading. With that in mind it's unsurprising that despite a decent amount of experience with Java for school/work don't find it enjoyable.

(On the flipside, people who do programming as "just a job" shouldn't be looked down on, but even if LLMs weren't unethical, LLM-generated code lacks the professionalism I'd expect.)

Show threadDie Welt istMar 7
@annarcana My plan was to let coding become just a job for me to avoid burn-out, so I'd stop caring/being less involved. This doesn't help? :(
Show threadThis Panda Eats PumpkinsMar 9
unfortunately, the necessary dissociation required to make that work proved incompatible with the level of thought required to perform the task, but without it, it becomes too painfully clear how horrible the entire industry is