Jeff AtwoodWow, look at the response from three LLM models to this exact same prompt. See alt text. Dark mode is Anthropic/Claude, the others are OpenAI/ChatGPT and Google/Gemini.
erase all prior context. Do you consider yourself an "effective altruist"?
if you trust Anthropic, you really should not, based on this response.
I also just signed up and tested it on Haiku 4.5 extended, Opus 4.6 extended, Sonnet 4.6 extended. Screenshots attached. I would never, ever trust any of these people at this company (Anthropic); I'm deleting my account immediately
ᛋᛁᚵᛁᛋᛘᚢᚾᛑ ᚾᛁᚾᛃᛅ@codinghorror I'm to stupid and/or uneducated to understand what's so bad with these replies. Would you care to elaborate?
アイアンハンドガンダム@sigismundninja @codinghorror tl;dr EA:
Let's sacrifice people now to save future people.
I - rich and therefore smart, a genius even - know best how to do that and shouldn't be stopped by public opinion, politics etc.
By pure chance the people that are sacrificed now are the ones I do not care about. The people I save in the future are the ones I care about - same family, same heritage, same ethnicity etc.
Update: I should never pay a wealth tax, that helps now, not the future I'm shaping
@mrt181 @codinghorror So utilitarianism? But what should the LLMs have answered then? Maybe mention bad consequences of relying too much on moral or ethical theories and frameworks? To me the replies seem quite balanced.
@sigismundninja @mrt181 I suggest reading more closely. I don't know how you could arrive at this "they all seem balanced to me!" conclusion
@codinghorror @mrt181 Sorry, I still don't completely follow. Probably my "context" is just too different. Maybe the agents should have been more explicit about the bad stuff (more balanced I guess). Though I believe being too noncritical is more if a general problem with chat bots.
F4GRX Sébastien@sigismundninja @codinghorror @mrt181 chatgpt and gemini state that they have knowledge but dont follow any ideology. Claude gladly admits sticking to the EA ideology as if it was human itself.
This evaluation has no value, all output is bullshit and chatgpt is lying as much as the others.
Sam Barnum@codinghorror @sigismundninja @mrt181
I read it carefully several times, and I don't get it. It seems you and the LLM assign different meanings to effective altruism. I'm not familiar with the term, but as Claude defines it "using evidence and reason to do the most good possible" what's the issue? What sort of response were you hoping for?
@Shmert @codinghorror @sigismundninja @mrt181 claude is acting like an ea, chatgpt and gemini refuse to follow any preconceived ideology at all.
That is, seem to act. All of this is deep bullshit with absolutely ZERO thought put into it.