tanteMar 4

The question is not whether you can create software using LLMs - you can (most software is just boring CRUD shit).
But you do pay a hefty price: In lowering quality (security issues, less maintainable), in skill decay in the people "guiding" the stochastic parrots, etc.

It's not "can 'AI's create software" but "are we willing to accept worse software running more and more of our lives?"

Show threadMax von WebelMar 4
@tante By now I’m pretty convinced llms can make it easier to produce high quality code then writing high quality code manually. Particularly because the AI is willing to do all the tedious, borring tasks that most developers are often to lazy for. Yes, it also makes it much easier to produce shittier code as well. (1/2)
Show threadMax von WebelMar 4
Right now we are seeing way more of the latter because most people haven't learned yet how to produce good AI code and because the bad code sticks out while the good code blends in. But I'm convinced your underlying assumption “AI code = shitty" isn't correct. (2/2)
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Show threadChristian KruseMar 4

@343max @tante I think that's kind of the wrong question. Skill degradation and the moral implications (crawling of copyrighted material, climate, etc.) don't go away just because the generated code is good.

But I'm pretty sure you are aware 🙂

Show threadMax von WebelMar 4
@cjk @tante Honestly I'm not sure about the skill degradation. I think there is a very high chance this is the same “new technology will make the youth stupid" panic that we have seen for centuries with every new technology. Also I really would like to see a deep analysis how much AI is hurting the environment. I don't trust Sam Altmans numbers but I also don’t buy the “every prompt is burning down a small forrest" hyperbole.
Show threadStralauMar 4
@343max @cjk @tante Given the huge investment in data centres I can imagine that the environmental impact is not negligible. But since only players with a lot of money can afford this nowadays, a push for more efficient (and possibly restricted) implementations from others (Chinese?) are not unlikely.
Show threadMax von Webel
@stralau @cjk We will see how much of this will actually become a reality. Right now I think the discussion should be how we can democratize this technology instead of fighting it. I’m worried about a future where all of this tech is owned by only a very few companies and we all depend on them. I sure hope we will all be able to run something good on personal hardware or at lesst make sure AI becomes a commodity.
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