A local city proudly mentioned on the news that they had a system that could track TPMS sensors. Pretty much all cars after 2008 uses TPMS sensors that each broadcast a unique identifier to the car. They aren’t hard to remove, and you can buy valve stems that fit your car (0.452 hole) at any auto parts store.

Yeah, a couple problems with that:

You’re going to have a tire pressure light on forever.

There’s a reason these are mandated. They’re critical safety (and efficiency) systems.

As always, these are systems of convenience, and the alternative is to check your tire pressures every day before leaving home.

Older cars use a wheel speed sensor-based TPMS. It’s not as effective or reliable but it also doesn’t emit any signals that can be read by other devices.

I managed to drive cars for 30 years without a TPMS sensor and the only time I ever had a to check the pressure on a tire, was when I knew i had a leak and didn’t have time to fix it. I can also tell by the way my car drives if a tire is soft. I also had an air pump in my car powered by a cigarette lighter adapter that I could fill my tires.

My current car, from 2019 doesn’t have one. I’ve managed to own it 7 years (this week) without needing to check the pressure 2500 times.

The assertion you need to check your pressure everyday without a TPMS system is ridiculous.

The fact that you’ve gotten away with it is not proof that it’s unnecessary. The fact that it was legally mandated is good evidence that it is. These systems save lives, no question about it.

What a shockingly wrong take. TPMS is a convenience, not a safety measure, have properly inflated tires is. And, anyone who properly maintains their car, doesn’t need it

And, it’s not legally mandated everywhere, even if it is for you.

What an incredibly bad take. Indeed, having properly inflated tires is a safety issue. How do you know if they’re properly inflated? Are you checking them every 3 minutes while driving? Because TPMS is…

Because I was bored

GIDAS data

www.ircobi.org/wordpress/downloads/…/2_3.pdf

It concludes that even if you increased grip, which includes tire pressure variance, by 15%, it would only represent a reduction of 2% of road related fatalities, which is actually within the margin of error.

While 2% sounds like a lot, GIDAS also shows that tire failures account for less than 1% of road accidents causing death.

So you’re spending $300 to $500 on a new car for a TPMS which reduces the probability of accidental death by 0.02%.

And fun fact, most tire related accidents are actually from tread depth, not low pressure, and TPMS will do fuck all to tell you your tread depth is low.

It concludes that even if you increased grip

It’s nothing to do with grip. In fact, a lower tire pressure will actually increase grip.

tire failures account for less than 1% of road accidents causing death.

Oh well if no one died it must not be a safety issue?

So you’re spending $300 to $500 on a new car for a TPMS

Uhhh nope, it comes with the car…

And fun fact, most tire related accidents are actually from tread depth, not low pressure

So we’re just going to ignore it as a safety issue because it’s not a main cause of collisions?

I apologize. I didn’t realize you aren’t very smart, because nothing “comes with the car”. You pay for every component.

Your personal insults are only reflecting poorly on you.

They come with the car. Every car. Doesn’t matter how much they cost. They are not optional. It is not a choice your can make.

They didn’t come with my car. My car does not have a TPMS sensor. Your “every car comes with them” statement is blatantly false.

And, I am not insulting you, if anything I am sad for you. I made what I believe is an honest assessment of your intellectual capabilities based on your lack of understanding with how parts inside an automobile are priced and the nonsensical responses you have given to cogent points.

It doesn’t matter if it’s mandated for inclusion where you live, that doesn’t mean it’s free. You are paying for it. In fact, you are paying for sensors ti replaced multiple times over the life of the vehicle, another thing which most people won’t do. So, every 3 to 8 years (depending on various factors), you have to replace the TPMS sensors, pay another $300 to $500 for something which does sweet fuck all for your safety.