Mastodawn

And yet only one of them gets flogged in the media

Aren’t EVs mostly a thing to save the car industry, and not really in the end all that good for the environment? Between the ethics of the supply chains, to the actual environmental impact of material extraction, the benefits really only matter if all car owners swapped right away, and even then only begin to go carbon positive over a long time. While I realize not everywhere has transit available, where it is a way more positive environmental impact can be had from people just ditching cars outright. Though here in the states this quickly runs into problems with urban planning literally being intentionally bad to force people to own cars to keep the car industry alive.

I also don’t really know a ton about the car industry because I avoid them at all costs, so I’m happy to be educated. Almost of of my knowledge is from urbanism perspectives…

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Dupelet

Aren’t EVs mostly a thing to save the car industry, and not really in the end all that good for the environment?

No that’s ICE talking points.

There’s obviously no comparison to be made with public transit, public transit kicks the ass of everything else in environmental friendliness. But it isn’t and won’t be an option in many cities and countries, so cars are here to stay for the medium future at least.

Given that we acknowledge the need for cars, what about the higher environmental impact of manufacturing them? Research shows that based on the cleanliness of the power sources the grid is using, it takes an average of 6 - 24 the for an EV to break even and start overtaking an ICE vehicle in (reduced) emissions. That’s not a long time in a car’s lifetime, and that’s not yet accounting for future economies of scale such as battery recycling that we don’t yet implement.