I KNOW IT SUCKS, I KNOW IT IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT, BUT PLEASE DISABLE YOUR DAMN OPEN MASTODON INSTANCE REGISTRATIONS

@jerry I would never sign up for an instance that wasn't open. I'm not going to be pre-judged by anybody. Just. No.

Ewww.

I understand the administrative burden, but 🤢.

@clonezone @jerry

AI bots yaaaaaay

Honestly, Jerry is doing an amazing job.

I mean if you don't like to be pre-judged, you can always self-host?

@13reak You lock down registrations, you're excluding anyone not willing to write an essay justifying themselves.

And there was no attack on Jerry in that.

@clonezone Seriously? Write an essay? The most you have to do is prove your human by just saying some things. I know you feel like it's a personal attack on you, but it isn't

@13reak

@lydiaconwell @clonezone @13reak
> excluding anyone not willing to write an essay justifying themselves.
But, but. But now those monsters are all able and willing to write you way better than typical nerdy person has patience for. We recently joked about #verified mastodon users, but it will be no joke if a silicon based #noai hater will figure this out, with a little help of protein-based malice. Time to make a good typo and skewed grammar detector. For instances open or not alike.

@clonezone Nothing wrong with open registrations, but it should be done VERY intentionally and only by someone willing to take on that administrative burden. It should be private by default.

@13reak

@rbos
The "administrative burden" for open registration doesn't rest on the admins of that instance.

- It falls on every user who sees the spam it causes and reports that to their own admins.
- It falls on the admins of all the other instances who have to process these reports, act on them and maybe have to decide if it's better to silence or defederate that instance rather than whacking dozens or hundreds of spambots originating there.
- It falls on all those people who have to clean up the mess after someone got taken in by a scam.

@clonezone @13reak

@clonezone @13reak It doesn't have to be an essay.
I don't require much, but I really only give accounts to people I know (IRL or virtually)
@chewie Totally fine. But, then, I'm not planning on signing up to your instance. 🙂
@clonezone @13reak most instances require literally 1-2 sentences. It's usually just to prove you're human. Some instances go a little farther than that, but it's up to you whether you want to sign up for those. I've had 2 accounts on instances without open registration and I didn't write more than a single sentence for either

@tarix29 Nope. Not going to justify myself in the least to anyone.

Again, I understand that there are administrative costs to this.

But. No. 🤬. Way.

@clonezone @tarix29 But then why are you even here?

Every post on a social platform is a de facto justification, you just want the privilege of being assumed a good guy when there are waves of folks cogently arguing why it's so important to require folks to demonstrate good faith before welcoming them to the community.

@clonezone @tarix29 Consider that a less entitled attitude may be warranted by the nonprofit nature of the platform.

There are no ads, no trackers, no paywalls, no nothing. Each user increases the administrative and technical burden of their instance, and there's nothing to recoup that cost aside from donations. If a user doesn't donate to their instance, then strictly speaking, that's all they are: a burden. The instance is measurably worse off with them on it.

Isn't it a little rude to act like you're entitled to an instance's server space for free?

@tarix29

Wouldn't a bot be able to generate those sentences?

@clonezone @13reak

@argv_minus_one @clonezone @13reak most servers prompt you to write something that a bot probably wouldn't write. Obviously it may possible for LLMs to sneak pass that (it's not a perfect defense), but there's plenty of empirical evidence that it massively cuts down on the amount of moderation work
@tarix29 @argv_minus_one @clonezone @13reak Case in point: https://plush.city/@mawr/114835317201038991 . And quite frankly I don't see how one could reliably separate LLM responses from human ones, or just lies from truth (since many bots use usernames that appear to be real people names).
✨Soff✨ Mawr :dragnwitch: (@[email protected])

Attached: 4 images Spammers have been programmatically creating accounts on Mastodon instances for years. Sometimes they post once and never again, sometimes they post on a schedule. Sometimes they never post, like a waiting botnet. As Mastodon's anti-spam solutions are effectively nonexistent, most instances in our network require manual approval of new accounts. Up until recently, it was easy to spot a spammer; their join reasons were generic. ChatGPT spammers have now arrived. #MastoAdmin #FediAdmin #spam

✨Plush✨City 🏙

@13reak @clonezone @jerry dude I do a lot of self hosting myself but if you really think hosting a fucking social network is something everyone should be doing you really need to go outside and touch some grass. Get in touch with reality. I swear everyone in this thread is a fricking psychopath.

No. Not everyone should close their instances. Most are open and for good reason. Gatekeeping is not a valid solution.