Jonty Wareing
Extremely cursed adapter. Someone please ban my aliexpress account.
Mar 3 at 2:50pmWeb
Show threadJonty WareingMar 3
Now if you don't mind I'm off to plug our toastie maker into the car charger on the street
Show threadBen HardillMar 3
@jonty Didn't @mattgrayyes build something like this recently to charge his bike?
Show threadjarkmanMar 3
@jonty what kind of terrifying voltage does that give you?
Show threadBarney LivingstonMar 3
@jarkman @jonty Only the usual 230V (assuming they've not connected across phases or something, but most chargers won't have multiple phases) but it can pull up to 7kW so mind your fuses
Show threadjarkmanMar 3
@barnoid @jonty speed toasties!
Show threadBarney LivingstonMar 3
@jarkman The terrifying thing is that you could stick US plug in that socket
Show threadJohn HonniballMar 3
@barnoid @jarkman It's time for my regular re-posting of this very safe dual outlet, as seen in Brazil. Both sockets are identical; the same plug will go into either one
Show threadJim EasterbrookMar 3
@anachrocomputer @barnoid @jarkman
Any well equipped UK bathroom has dual voltage sockets.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/british-general-900-series-2-gang-dual-voltage-shaver-socket-115-230v-white/72643
Show threadTamontenMar 3
@jarkman @jonty Yes.
Show threadSid GreenfieldMar 3
@jonty as someone with a type 2 car charger in my driveway but no convenient 3 pin plug near I am sorely tempted to join you in this!
Show threadErik AblesonMar 3
@jonty Insta-toast!
Show threadDarkedgeMar 3
@jonty saw someone who built a thing like Rhys for his electric bike. Cursed but actually sort of useful as lamppost chargers and the like just output 220/240 v ac..
Show threadJonty WareingMar 3
@Darkedge That would be my friend @mattgrayyes!
Show threadDarkedgeMar 3
@jonty @mattgrayyes durr of course...
Show threadKestralMar 3
@jonty Is that... an EV AC to 3-pin adapter?
Show threadJonty WareingMar 3
@kestral Why, yes is is. Also 2 pin. Also all the pins worldwide.
Show threadKestralMar 3

@jonty well where else are you going to plug in your Hot Wax Strip Unsightly Hair Remover when the rest of the crew are trying to power the main console?

https://youtu.be/caomtrH9Qs0?si=5oz17xr9mw-gHVFt

0402 DNA Hot Wax Strip Unsightly Hair Remover

YouTube
Show thread1000millimeterMar 3
@jonty @kestral Well no. No PE for Schuko and French.
Show threadJess RoseMar 3
@jonty does it make a satisfying clicky sound when you open the plastic shield?
Show threadYvanMar 3
@jonty what kinda 3-phase socket is that?
Show threadJonty WareingMar 3
@yvan It's a CCS2 electric car charging socket
Show threadYvanMar 3

@jonty ah, righty!

I am unfamilliar with EV plugs! Just saw the L1/L2/L3/PE/N and assumed some weird kinda 3P+N+E I didn't recognise. Which I guess it is... kinda... plus some...

Show threadZ̈oéMar 3
@jonty @yvan it isn’t CCS! just the Mennekes Type2 (AC) part of the Type2 CCS
Show threadMarcMar 3
@jonty someone been watching Matt Gray?
Show threadKnud JahnkeMar 3

@jonty

Now please show the wiring scheme!

Show threadKnud JahnkeMar 3

@jonty

On second thought maybe don't...

Show threadRichard BairwellMar 3

@jonty And there @mattgrayyes is cursing that they made their own electric car to electric bike conversion plug from scratch...

(edited to add link to Matt's post at https://chaos.social/@mattgrayyes/116120182750135095 and video at https://youtube.com/watch?v=i6IyukCIia8 )

Matt Gray (@[email protected])

I hacked car charging to work with my electric bike! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6IyukCIia8

chaos.social
Show threadjiub   Mar 3
@jonty i love how companies on aliexpress don't stop to think if they should make an adapter from one standard to another, just that they can
Show threadLett Osprey   🍉 Mar 3
@jiub Several cars comes with these kinda adapters, it's does not seem all that odd... @jonty
Show threadLett Osprey   🍉 Mar 3

@jiub This feels like way more of a risk-level. Adapter with protocol translator doing up to 50kW between two DC standards...

https://biladapter.no/en/products/ccs-til-chademo-adapter-1

@jonty

CCS-to-CHAdeMO adapter

Show threadjiub   Mar 3
@lettosprey @jonty i think this is the opposite of what you're thinking of

some EVs (i've seen it on hyundai and kia at least) have an adapter that converts the CCS port on the car to an AC outlet

this converts the CCS plug on a charger to an AC outlet

that's what i've gathered by looking at the connectors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Charging_System

but i agree it's not very dangerous assuming it has basic electrical safety for 240V/50A or whatever the max is for L2 charging
Combined Charging System - Wikipedia

Show threadLett Osprey   🍉 Mar 3

@jiub This is not a CCS plug, though, it is a type-2 plug. CCS has to extra pins for DC, this does not.

A type 2 socket can provide most anything as long as the plug gives the correct control signal. So mimicing a regular outlet should not be all that tricky.
@jonty

Show threadLett Osprey   🍉 Mar 3

@jonty Oki, being aliexpress this probably does not complay to standards, but these kinda adapters are not all that unique, are they?

The car probably need to support V2L, but several do and you can get these adapters for those cars.

Show threadJonty WareingMar 3
@lettosprey This is for use with a charger, not with a car. It is quite unusual.
Show threadLett Osprey   🍉 Mar 3

@jonty Unusual, probably because I would assume there is rarely a need for it, is not often you have a type 2 socket and need a "regular outlet".

Going from an "controllable" AC outlet (like these type 2 outlets) to a regular outlet should not be all too tricky. The opposite way (regular outlet to type2) requires a lot more

Show threadLett Osprey   🍉 Mar 3

@jonty I have the fun situation though having a Chademo car and the amount of chademo chargers going down, and being near non-existent outside Norway.

The "lill" adapter I need cost around 1000 europs and may or may not be legal to use :O

Show threadbhtooefrMar 3

@jonty fun thing: there’s a motorcycle OEM that sells a J1772 to IEC C13 adapter for some of their older/smaller motorcycle models: https://zeromotorcycles.com/accessories/products/j1772-charging-adapter

so you could totally just plug your computer into a EVSE that way

J1772 Charging Adapter

The SAE J1772 Charging Adapter allows you to charge your Zero using applicable public electric vehicle charging stations. The charging adapter plugs directly into the standard charging port of applicable models and does not require any installation or m...

Show threadSamMar 3

@jonty I bought something vaguely related recently although a little less cursed. My car charges from a 13A plug (basically a built in extension lead) but I'd like to be able to use public chargers.

Your device would've also worked 😁

Show threadJernej Simončič �Mar 3
@jonty Hey, @TechConnectify, looks like AliExpress is selling a ready-made version of that adapter you made!
Show threadFranziskaMar 3
@jonty I was thinking of getting a three-phase one multiple times so far, i should maybe actually buy it
Show threadKlaus FrankMar 3
@jonty How else would you charge your phone in public? /s
Show thread1000millimeterMar 3
@jonty Does it have a fuse? If yes I don't see an issue.
Show threadOliver SeilerMar 3
@jonty fancy version of this 😅
https://mastodon.nz/@oseiler/115709930769782067
Oliver Seiler (@[email protected])

Attached: 2 images ... now charge me ⚡

Mastodon NZ
Show threadTryst 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇮🇪  Mar 3
@jonty So you watched @mattgrayyes 's video as well then?
Show threadaltf4Mar 4
@jonty Someone proposed to me to make a Type 2 powered raclette machine...
Show threadauipc fp, .Lkleines_Filmröllchen   Mar 4
@jonty that's outright normal. You can probably wire that up passively. Have you never seen a CEE 3phase to normal single-phase outlet adapter? Basically the same.
Show threadGaelan SteeleMar 5

@jonty me, out loud, to an empty room, upon processing what I was looking at:

“oh nooo”

Show threadRustyMar 6
@jonty have seen one of these in the wild enabling a Citröen Ami to charge in public