tante

As a human being you have the right to be able to understand the world. That is why education is so important.

Any technology that hinders your understanding (even if it seemingly gives you capabilities) is deeply in- and anti-humane.

Mar 3 at 12:43pmWeb
Show threadbarclakjMar 3
@tante I’m not convinced that’s a human right. It would be nice to understand the world, it would be nice to understand the universe. Education is important. But I’m not even sure we’re capable of understanding, let alone that it should be a human-right…
Show threadtanteMar 3
@barclakj Article 26 of the UN declaration of human rights.
Show threadBioSchweizMar 3
@tante @barclakj that's the right to receive an elementary education. Bit far-reaching interpretation!
Show threadKateMar 3
@barclakj @tante I think what I'd say is that you have a right to understand the operations of the social world you live in. these days consumer computing devices are almost primarily about operating, delineating, and consuming your social environment, including and especially the social production of knowledge. and their functioning is opaque and out of my control, even if I'm a programmer who makes using and understanding alternative software into my full-time job
Show threadbarclakjMar 3
@devkate @tante understanding something is not the same as knowing it or of having an education in it. You can take a horse to water but you cant make it drink.
Show threadKeithMar 3
@tante 💯. One of my biggest issues with LLMs is that they are more often used to deskill workers than upskill workers. This is a major difference between vibe coding and programming with higher-level languages. Higher level languages encourage programmers to think about the problems at a different level, while LLM coding agents are typically used to avoid thinking.
Show threadJulietteMar 3

@tante I tried to explain this yesterday to someone and they just kept saying "but it helps me"....

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Show threadNelsonMar 4

@tante Is this the distinction between tools, which amplify the abilities of humans and help you develop skills, and machines, which do the task for you (and hide any knowledge or decisionmaking inside)?

Or perhaps we need "tools for conviviality" as Ivan Illich would put it?