zivibtw #fediblock social.vlhl.dev - is an instance by and for tankies
(see thread for some context)
(casual reader beware, for it’s a hellthread of shitstorms now~)
Luci ☯⚛@zaire You cannot post something like this when you're mutuals with people who are mutuals with the person who runs that instance and not expect people to ask for receipts 😅
@quantumsys ah, just take a scroll thru her profile, you’re bound to stumble upon very questionable stuff. gonna do some of that for ya
- tankie symbol in name, when you see that the user is 90% likely to be an obnoxious tankie, this one is a prime example
- “please china 🙏 the people of germany deserve regime change” https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B3pQDV5o2hx66FriBU - shilling for horrible totalitarian regimes
- https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B3nF4v90KJL2Tm9DNY ??? criticizing fascist governments is bad now?
- https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B3moA8RLcfv2OvzPvc ??? call for nuclear war
- boosted “free maduro” post, once again adjacent to shilling for authoritarians
that’s just a week in
lizzy مثلية الله ☭ :heart_lesbian_diagonal2: :cuwu: (@[email protected])
please china 🙏 the people of germany deserve regime change
@quantumsys continuing the scroll!~
- https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B3G7mXxSgNHBScMXjc bonus!! strong implication of “forcefemming men is good and it’s funny to argue against that”
- https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B3FAeZnO4XTdXza7Gq explicit pro-tankie stance
- https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B3A0NVSUyO71qFEVuq bonus!! we’re getting closer to the buried gem of a crashout
- https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B31bfwmo3Yx7grkUyW “wifey and i want to put up some soviet propaganda posters in our home as decoration” wow is this unhinged in a bad way
- https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B2scLy0Imtnt1Av200 bonus another pro-forcefem (don’t come at me with “it’s cnc” argument, it’s definitely not in this context) take
oh look at that! we’ve reached The Crashout Thread, and it’s actually by a completely different tankie user, on a completely different (still completely fediblockable instance akko.tuxcrafting.xyz). https://akko.tuxcrafting.xyz/objects/1e335a26-fa4d-4a51-bae3-88a668a02072 . it’s still extremely relevant! for i see it boosted by lizzy
the akko.tuxcrafting.xyz case:
- https://akko.tuxcrafting.xyz/objects/9d8876e3-4409-4e1f-abcf-9911973966d3 - extremely tankie-brainwashed take lol
- https://akko.tuxcrafting.xyz/objects/1ecc6ab3-b6d5-41b9-b508-386ef4aee5e3 “countries like the USSR are democratic”, ‘nuff said
tbc
lizzy مثلية الله ☭ :heart_lesbian_diagonal2: :cuwu: (@[email protected])
immensely funny type of guy. check out the replies RE: https://noc.social/@light/115980861452069016
Cyborus@[email protected] @quantumsys yes they did???????? this isnt even misleading this is just A Lie
@Cyborus @quantumsys i bet if one of those internet marxolenists tried talking to someone who was there during the soviets’ atrocities they’d be getting a (perhaps metaphorical) wrench to the head within a couple minutes
witch_t *navi@zaire @quantumsys nothing of this warrants a instance wide fediblock
those kinds of campaigns just creates pain, gives me a lot of anxiety, breaks the network, and causes chaos for no reason -- can you not, just block her account yourself and move on
those kinds of campaigns just creates pain, gives me a lot of anxiety, breaks the network, and causes chaos for no reason -- can you not, just block her account yourself and move on
@navi @quantumsys the instance seems to be ran entirely by and for tankies aka pseudo-left fash i’d say an instance-wide block or limit is just as appropriate as it is for any other fash instance
@navi @quantumsys probably no good reason to be telling this to you though, but ah well
@zaire @quantumsys even if that premise is to be accepted, which it's not and do not call me fascist, i don't post anything related to socio political nor economics
so what do you have against me except "guilty by association"?
so what do you have against me except "guilty by association"?
@navi @quantumsys you may not be loud about it on this account, but you are a tankie, aren’t you? and i believe the principle of not letting “good” fash into your bar either applies here too
i am strictly opposed to letting nazis (tankies) into the bar (fedi) lest it become a nazi bar
@zaire @quantumsys this is my only account
and do not call me a fascist
i am a communist and that's it, that's all
and honestly the damage you just caused me for stupid reasons just now, you're just causing pain and splitting communities
fuck you, i hope you're happy hurting people for no reason
and do not call me a fascist
i am a communist and that's it, that's all
and honestly the damage you just caused me for stupid reasons just now, you're just causing pain and splitting communities
fuck you, i hope you're happy hurting people for no reason
la gⒶr☭a (it's actually spelled with an s not ç, sue me)@autumn @navi @quantumsys i’m just gonna report you and wait for the subposts from your fellow vile marxofash to start popping up
@zaire @navi @quantumsys thanks, I haven't yet succeeded in getting this instance fediblocked, it is an honor o7
ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES@autumn @zaire @navi @[email protected]
you're admitting you're a fascist genius
military imposition is fascism
you do understand who stalin was and what he did right?
do you have an idealized vision of communism in your mind? great. you realize stalin betrayed it?
no, you don't. because that interferes with your mythology. unfortunately, reality overrules your stupid myths. you're simply a delusional character who can't accept or cope with reality
䷏→䷧@zaire @navi @quantumsys Hi hello. Lemmie just quickly situate myself as someone who's still mad as hell about Kronstadt. I'd like to ask you to please take a moment, step back, and ask yourself "Is this all what I really think, what I want to put out there, or am I being swept up in the inertia of the thrill? What could me being mistaken, off base, or just wrong potentially look like and imply, what are the nuances I have failed to consider and what are the risks of that fail-state? Is hashtag fediblock ever even a distantly remotely sensible approach to anything at all or is it a tool I don't want to endorse?"
Thank you, that's all.
@navi @zaire @[email protected]
"it's just a prank bro" is not a defense
tankies need to be nuked from the fediverse. tankie apologists need to be nuked from the fediverse. "lol, look at my tankie lite shitposting lol" needs to be nuked from the fediverse
it's not funny
tankies are fascists and not of the left
they are as bad as bigots, transphobes, plutocrats, racists, and any other fascist force
★ 凪鈴【Nagirin】 (Anastácia) 茸形@zaire I don't even like MLs politically but you're being orders of magnitude more ridiculous than they could ever be lol
@zaire You're not showing a spine you're kicking and screaming online calling for the social exclusion of someone you find disagreeable. If you're genuinely so upset at their posts just block and move on.
@zaire you're closer to fascism than the average ML with your reactionary non-communist anti-capitalism lol
@nagirin “non-communist anti-capitalism = close to fascism” is strange logic, we in the biz just call that anarchism
@zaire anarchism is a reactionary political movement
@zaire scary, someone pushes against you!!
@zaire maybe try building your politics around something more than moralising and the cult of action
@zaire both of those things have very clear meanings
@nagirin okay well how about you tell me those meanings because i’m not a marxolenist i ain’t reading 10 books about each of them just so i can engage in a 10 minute debate that’s sure to end in us being blockuals
@zaire I'm not a Marxist, those are not Marxist phrases. You do not need to read 10 books to know what moralising means 
But okay sure. Moralising is when you build political opinions and ideas mostly on purely on morals, we should help the poor because it's the right thing to do, type stuff. Morals themselves are fine, but the issue with moralising politics is that people can just disagree. So you end up with wet mop politics and an inability to actually advocate for anything.
Cult of action is the fetishisation many have for "doing things", union organisation, sabotage, striking, political parties, etc. I am not completely disregarding them, but many leftists see these thing as supreme and moralise the participation in these activities as an imperative.
But okay sure. Moralising is when you build political opinions and ideas mostly on purely on morals, we should help the poor because it's the right thing to do, type stuff. Morals themselves are fine, but the issue with moralising politics is that people can just disagree. So you end up with wet mop politics and an inability to actually advocate for anything.
Cult of action is the fetishisation many have for "doing things", union organisation, sabotage, striking, political parties, etc. I am not completely disregarding them, but many leftists see these thing as supreme and moralise the participation in these activities as an imperative.
@nagirin aaaand how are those things wrong?
morals are at the core of politics
good morals = leftist, bad morals = fash. if people consistently “just disagree” with doing the right thing, their morals are scuffed and shouldn’t be considered, it’s that simple
action is at the core of anything happening
if we don’t do anything, nothing will happen; nothing does not include society improving somewhat
miko@zaire What birthes morals? Morals didn't drop from the sky, nor were they reasoned to by you as a free agent. Morals are build around millennia of human society. And as such the morals that you, and everyone hold, are tainted by oppressive class society.
Morals are a social construct and a social webbing that we partake in, one cannot declare themselves emancipated from morals. This is important because the morals of society at large mostly exist to uphold the society we already have. You may not like to be told this, but I and your morals are like >90% based on western Abrahamic traditions, and removing ourselves from that is nigh impossible.
I think the issue is clear, basing political action and thought on a moral system so corrupted and tainted by the society you already exist within will therefore taint the political beliefs that you form.
You cannot emancipate yourself from morals, as I said. But you can not put them on the centre of your political reasoning and try to limit your dependance on them politically.
And also, no, there are no such thing as good and bad morals, there is no objective morality, even if you follow a religion where such is the case, e.g. Christianity, people of other religions will just, disagree. Surely you do not have the arrogance to play cosmic moral judge, not to mention the arrogance of beliving the morals you hold happen to be the "right ones".
Cult of action is problematic specifically because it builds on the idae of the sovereign individual. That we are free agents able to act without being tethered by our circumstance and material condition. The currents of history does not bow to a king that declares himself ruler of the tides. And political motions of the world do not depend on the actions of individuals. I don't expect you to agree on this point, just sharing my viewpoint.
I am not against improving society, but that doesn't come from a supreme internal "drive" in me and other people of action. It comes because people are moved to action by the conditions they exist within.
Morals are a social construct and a social webbing that we partake in, one cannot declare themselves emancipated from morals. This is important because the morals of society at large mostly exist to uphold the society we already have. You may not like to be told this, but I and your morals are like >90% based on western Abrahamic traditions, and removing ourselves from that is nigh impossible.
I think the issue is clear, basing political action and thought on a moral system so corrupted and tainted by the society you already exist within will therefore taint the political beliefs that you form.
You cannot emancipate yourself from morals, as I said. But you can not put them on the centre of your political reasoning and try to limit your dependance on them politically.
And also, no, there are no such thing as good and bad morals, there is no objective morality, even if you follow a religion where such is the case, e.g. Christianity, people of other religions will just, disagree. Surely you do not have the arrogance to play cosmic moral judge, not to mention the arrogance of beliving the morals you hold happen to be the "right ones".
Cult of action is problematic specifically because it builds on the idae of the sovereign individual. That we are free agents able to act without being tethered by our circumstance and material condition. The currents of history does not bow to a king that declares himself ruler of the tides. And political motions of the world do not depend on the actions of individuals. I don't expect you to agree on this point, just sharing my viewpoint.
I am not against improving society, but that doesn't come from a supreme internal "drive" in me and other people of action. It comes because people are moved to action by the conditions they exist within.
@nagirin but you have to agree, murdering people because they disagree with you is bad, murdering people who’re trans or otherwise marginalized because you feel like it is bad, etc. of course, transphobes will Just Disagree, but that doesn’t mean their opinions are valid
That we are free agents able to act without being tethered by our circumstance and material condition.
it’s neither here nor there
of course we’re all tethered by our circumstance, but that doesn’t mean we can’t do anything to dismantle the oppressive systems we’re being forced into from the inside. organized strikes and sabotage do that. please don’t nihilism away the fact that when people do things, things happen, and insofar as a society is concerned things can’t really happen without people doing things
a random given individual is unlikely to be able to cause drastic shifts in history on their own, but many small actions or many people combined are what steers the world
@zaire I'm not belittling you. I'm completely genuine when I say Anarchism (including most political movements self-describing as anti-capitalism) is reactionary as it builds around this idealisation of small production and small communities.
god's strongest eunuch@zaire @quantumsys what is it with yall not being able to not like people and instead jumping to outright posting receipts of someone you literally dont even know look at yourself dawg
@azureazure @quantumsys that’s part of the not liking when it gets intense enough
fash should not be given the time of day is the thing
@zaire @quantumsys who the fuck is "fash" here? some girl with a hammer & sickle in the display name that shitposts about wanting xi jinping to liberate germany and forcefem is a fascist to you? you're the glowiest glowie to ever glow
@azureazure @quantumsys ha, this might make my title list
albeit i don’t see why a glowie would be bothering to engage in a shitshow like this on fedi
some girl with a hammer & sickle in the display name that shitposts about wanting xi jinping to liberate germany and forcefem is a fascist to you
posts made in jest still carry meaning m’foe
those shitposts carry harmful meaning
maive@zaire @azureazure @quantumsys by all means continue to be a humourless liberal poasting warrior im sure the world will be a better place, just one more pointless social exclusion, just one more then the world will be pure of degener- uhh i mean... problematic individuals . gawd who teaches people to be this annoying in 2026. the anti-communist (read: liberal fascism) brainrot is intense
@winterklaus @azureazure @quantumsys fuck yeah i love my stupid humourless liberal life (it’s called being anarchist, but, semantics, ya’know)