@pelle Quite a misframing of the tenets of EA: do good and think of how to do this best. Yes, there are people misusing this frame to do evil, but equating EA with that frame is the dangerous path instead.

Is the alternative you propose "Don't do good" or "Try to do good, but in a random way without caring if it actually helps"?

@erwinrossen
> Quite a misframing of the tenets of EA: do good and think of how to do this best.

in the context of the #overshoot #podcast, https://populationbalance.org/the-dangers-of-effective-altruism-alice-crary
do you think this is #AliceCrary who gives a wrong picture of what #PeterSinger, #WilliamMacAskill and #SamBankmanFried are saying and doing?

or do you think that bankman-fried, macaskill or singer are misusing the #EffectiveAltruism label?

> Yes, there are people misusing this frame to do evil, but equating EA with that frame is the dangerous path instead.

is this just a discussion of labels? one might say: »yes, lenin, trotsky and stalin called themselves communists but really they were misusing that label to do evil. don't equate communism with them.«

i don't mind if you have another definition of what EA is. i am curious to hear it!

however, peter singer is talking a lot about effective altruism, so i don't think it is wrong of me to talk about him as being a proponent of what he calls effective altruism.

@pelle I'll reply later to this. It's an interesting discussion, but it's getting late now.

Something seems off with the link in your post by the way, when I visit it, I get a "We couldn't find the page you were looking for".