OtterVisual explanation of the chaos around women's clothing sizes
LibertyLizardI don’t understand why we can’t just measure the size of the garment and put that on them…
Even men’s sizes which are supposed to be that, have succumbed to vanity sizing. My actual waist measurement is usually about 4" bigger than what’s printed on a pair of pants. But since it’s no longer an actual measurement it varies quite a bit.
RobotToasterThere’s international and european standards for this, but nobody follows them en.wikipedia.org/…/Joint_European_standard_for_si…
Not even in the countries that created these standards?
OneWomanCreamTeamOh there’s nothing stopping them. The weird size shell game just makes more money.
brucethemooseVery cool site.
🇸🇵🇪🇨🇺🇱🇦🇹🇪🇷Ultimately what the author is complaining about is that fat people can’t buy clothes designed for thin people.
Why are we trying to work towards normalizing obesity instead of trying to figure out why the median is shifting to the right?
Oof, unpopular opinion there, my dude. I think it was a bit more nuanced than that, but ultimately, I agree with you… I don’t think we should be normalising obesity (in its narrowest definition - not what its definition has become). But let’s get real, buying clothes for different shapes and sizes can be painful if your body isn’t cookie cutter.
It was only slightly more nuanced than that, but I do agree with the author’s premise that lack of standardization makes buying clothes that fit well difficult.
It was when they started mentioning the statistics of how many adult women can’t wear certain sizes/brands that I realized the heart of this complaint was that too many American women are overweight.
There’s two things at play here. People who don’t give a shit about how their bodies look are less likely to be vain enough to buy designer clothes. Obese people are hard to make clothes for due to how we all store fat differently.
At the the of the day, if it were profitable, companies would adapt to the size of their customers. It’s not profitable (enough) so we get vanity sizes as a compromise.
RamenJunkieYeah, there was a point where it talks about how larger women can’t buy straight legged pants, but I imagine there is data that shows that they just don’t. Plus I imagine after some larger waist size, the hips and thighs just, no long “work” in straight legged pants.
atomicorangeSo you want fat women to run around naked? They don’t deserve clothes?
Not at all. I’m just saying that larger people are less likely to fit a mass produced clothing line.
Really don’t think we have to worry about “normalizing obesity”. There’s several markets that exist slowly to shame people into being thin, often through dangerous means.
Obesity comes with difficulties sure but people aren’t becoming obese because there isn’t enough shame for it, or its been normalized.