NomNomThis brilliant campaign from Quebec shows exactly what it takes to get motorists to actually yield
It’s cute but this is from the same province that would rather blame immigrant drivers for road fatalities than the failing, inconsistent infrastructure and terrible driver training.
In Montreal, the drivers are bad enough that turning right on red lights was banned because we couldn’t stop killing pedestrians.
pticrixTurning on right policy was never enabled in Montreal. And wtf you going on about blaming immigrant drivers? Source please, because this sounds like some divisive bullshit from the ROC.
BlisterexeYeah literally every time Quebec is brought up people say shit like that it’s insane
Because Ontario doesn’t test truck drivers, Quebec wanted to ban them.
On paper we test but it’s really corrupt and companies are basically given x number of licenses.
I imagine this person took it to thinking they were mad that they are majority immigrants rather than living in Ontario and seeing how unsafe our roads have gotten.
AnUnusualRelicMaybe immigrants from the US. I’d believe that they could be worse drivers.
Definitely not my opinion about immigrant drivers being a major source of accidents …our elected officials on the other hand…
Québec restreint l’accès à la possibilité de conduire pour les immigrants
I mean, I might be wrong, but from a quick research, it seems that our program is still more lenient than (most?) other provinces. e.g. :
- people from non-reciprocal jurisdiction can drive for 6 months with their permit from their country of provenance. Alberta is 90 days. Manitoba is 3 months.
- Like in these provinces, you now gotta take a driver’s test. If you fail, you get demoted to apprentice, not completely permitless. Sure, being an apprentice driver can be constraining - more or less depending on your situation - but it’s not something that can’t be remedied in the following year.
I am in no way knowledgeable in the intricacies of policies on the right to drive a vehicle, but from what I gather, it seems to all be pretty regular and taking into account data. Now, is the data good? I am not in a place to say, so if you’re educated about that let us know what you find reprehensible in there.
And all that doesn’t removes from the fact that our infrastructure is not properly maintained and developed, and hat many people in the province are not courteous drivers, in some region more than others (from my experience growing up outside of Montreal before moving to the city - where I come from, most drivers seemed to be motivated to make your life miserable).
YerboutiMontréal never banned right on red.
No right on red was the default, then most of Canada enabled right on red in the 1970, but Québec did not. Québec later enabled right on red by default in 2003, but Montréal (island) retained no right on red.
And RToR is bad everywhere. We’veknow it for a long time, but have jsut collectivelydecoded the cost was worth it. Here’s an article from Victoira in 1981 talking about it newspapers.com/…/times-colonist-victoria-may-5-19…
Thank you, I learn something new everyday 🚦
I stand by one of the greatest difficulties for everyone on/around the road in Montreal is that they don’t consistently follow traffic conventions accepted across the rest of the country (almost continent). Makes decisions less confident, less predictable and less safe across the board. I love their unique take in most other areas.
Makes decisions less confident, less predictable
Valid opinion, I’d be interested to see if there is some data to confirm or deny it. It’s different than my experiences, but I did live and drive there, so obviously it comes with a bias.
and less safe across the board.
Incorrect. Montréal has a low collision frequency and low serious injury and fatal collision rate compared to most the country/contient.
As a headsup, pedestrian deaths at crossings is consistently higher in places where right on red is legal. It’s not bad drivers, it’s a bad law enabling bad driving.
