Michele Feltman StriderFeb 28
So, the Epstein files are "start a war with Iran" bad
Show threadderptronFeb 28

@michelestrider We now know they contain several accounts of him raping underage girls and at least one of these accounts are highly credible and was removed from the files. The hunt is on for it.

But at this point I'm pretty sure he doesn't even give a shit because he knows nobody else does and that nobody's going to stop him in anything he does. Everyone has been bought or brought low.

Show threadOkunaMar 1
@crazyeddie @michelestrider NO.
So far there is no evidence that he raped an underage girl. There is an accusation he did, but innocent until proven guilty.
Even for him.
Or my English is too bad and I dont understand what you say…
Politicians love to say: If you have nothing to hide…
Well then, DJT, if you have nothing to hide…
I would expect if it became public he did, his approval rates would rise, at least in the MAGA area.
Show threadderptronMar 1

@Okuna @michelestrider I find it odd that you'd say there's no evidence and then point out part of that evidence in the next sentence, but whatever.

I stand corrected I guess?

Show threadOkunaMar 1
@crazyeddie @michelestrider english is not my native language. Where did I show evidence? In my books, an accusation is not evidence.
Show threadderptronMar 1

@Okuna @michelestrider In case you're actually being honest here (usually someone that doesn't know english doesn't go telling native speakers they're doing it wrong, but whatever):

You're conflating conviction and evidence. An accusation, especially one given to police during an investigation, is generally seen as evidence a crime took place. A conviction is a different matter.

And I don't actually have to give a shit about any of that because I'm not the fucking court system.

Show threadOkuna
@crazyeddie @michelestrider
I am serious and honest. I know english but I am not a native speaker. So I challenge my own understanding and account for the fact, that I learnt something wrong or I remember it wrong.
I did not want to tell you, your english is wrong. If this came across, I apologize.

Conviction to me is if a court has ruled. Evidence is proof that something happened. Needed for conviction but proof not always leads to a conviction, I think.
An accusation given to the police for me is not evidence. People accuse others at the police and lie sometimes. It is an accusation the police has to look into and find out if the accusation is correct or not. If it is correct, in my books it is evidence.
I do give a shit, else the western legal system is useless.
Mar 1 at 9:49amWeb
Show threadderptronMar 1

@Okuna @michelestrider You're again wrong about the word "evidence". I'm almost certain you are being dishonest here.

An accusation is evidence. If it's *credible enough* evidence it might even be used as such in court. Or it may be discounted by other evidence and then it's no longer evidence of that crime but of another possibly.

Was it credible?

* Investigators are said to have thought so.
* It was removed from the *EVIDENCE*

That's enough for me for now.

Show threadOkunaMar 1

@crazyeddie @michelestrider If I am dishonest dont answer.
Webster Dictionary about accusation:
-a charge of wrongdoing
The evidence confirms the accusations made against him.
The evidence confirms the accusation which means an accusation is not necessarily evidence.
in the U. S. legal system, there's a big difference between an accusation and evidence:

Accusation:
An accusation is a claim that someone has done something wrong or illegal.
Evidence is the proof (or attempted proof) used to support or disprove an accusation.
I stop my case, it is useless to discuss with you.

Show threadderptronMar 1
@Okuna @michelestrider Yes. I really do rest here.