ColI'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.
Barry Rowlingson@kibcol1049 I'm so old I remember when the internet was in black and white and they played an mp3 of the national anthem before it shut down every night.
Trouble@geospacedman @kibcol1049 I'm so old, I remember when the Internet was black and green...
Will 
@trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Wasn't there a time when the internet was a line printer? Before my time, but I recall whispers from the founding folks.
@AncTreat5358 @geospacedman @kibcol1049 I think you mean teletypes (i.e /dev/tty), but yes. I am not that old. I have never used punch card or tape either.
MissConstrue@trouble @AncTreat5358 @geospacedman @kibcol1049
I have both programmed with punchcards, and maintained supercomputers with tape. I may be an Elder. 🤷🏻♀️🤘🏼🥳. Why I remember when we telnet into each others bbs, and we liked it!
@AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049
One of the "funniest" is when I worked on supercomputers at 3InitialCorp, which was a very buttoned down, blue suit red tie kinda place, but I worked in the servers, so I dressed like a geek; concert tshirts, jeans, doc martins, visible tattoos, weird hair. I was young...early 20s...so about 40 years ago, pre dotcom.
I got a typed letter, hand signed by an executive, which I still have somewhere, which "reminded" me that the dress code for women was knee length skirts, panty hose, heels, well coifed hair, and manicured nails.
And I invited the executive & HR down to the pit with it's wire grate walkways, and pointed up and said "You're telling me to wear skirt and heels and walk around on that? You wanna run that past your lawyer first, or should I call mine?" They changed the dress code to casual for my dept.
And people want to know why there weren't a lot of women in tech in the beginning. Huh. Weird, that.
Cedar Fen Farm
Cedar Fen Farm@MissConstrue @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049
Excellent. 😂
@oldoldcojote @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049
I think it's really important to state here that I recognize how much privilege played into this scenario. If I had not been a reasonably attractive white-looking woman with an educational background that signified a certain class level, I would have just been fired.
A Black woman in the late 80s, with my same academics, experience, CV, wouldn't have even gotten an interview, much less been able to push back against the C suite.
@MissConstrue @oldoldcojote @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Thank you for sharing this very important inequity situation. I wish it did not exist, or could be systemically resolved once and for all.
Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK@AncTreat5358 @MissConstrue @oldoldcojote @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049
Even British men (other than in some customer facing roles) abandoned suits and ties from the late 1990s onwards - in smaller businesses its nowadays rare to see anyone wearing a suit and tie and nearly everywhere is smart casual nowadays, and dress codes only exist for some roles where work would supply you with a uniform (such as health/social care) and as much for identification as anything.
I've not worn a suit and tie in over 20 years now, other than for a relatives wedding..
@vfrmedia @MissConstrue @oldoldcojote @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Sounds like the environment I had been in was a product of its time, wanting to project a stately image to customer and colleague alike.
@AncTreat5358 @MissConstrue @oldoldcojote @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049
ties are stil often worn by sales staff in car dealerships here, although even then its not always the case, and when I bought my first car there I was amused to see the young salesman was wearing a hoodie over his shirt and tie presumably to look "in tune with the customer" (I only started driving in my 40s, as the car dealer generally doesn't know your age on the first sales enquiry they unsurprisingly thought I would be a far younger man 😁 )