Obsessed with this quote from an AI bro who is under the impression that horses "can do whatever they want now" as a result of the invention of the car.
@jef @henry
They were literally turned into dogfood.

@Doomed_Daniel @jef @henry

or into lasagne.

@TheOneSwit @jef @henry
I think that was later ;)
I think frozen lasagna wasn't a thing yet when a majority of horses were killed because cars replaced them

@Doomed_Daniel @jef @henry

there where two world wars in those times.

@TheOneSwit
well, yeah but when I think of horse lasagne the first thing that comes to mind is that scandal about frozen lasagne in German supermarkets a few years ago

@Doomed_Daniel @jef @henry

Don't forget about glue. Very important to the glue industry for a long time.

Can't wait until the AI tech bros use my useless remains to make glue.

@thomasafine @jef @henry
using your non-edible parts would be too efficient and sustainable for AI bros
@Doomed_Daniel @jef @henry Jack Dorsey promising his employees jobs at a farm upstate.
@ids1024 @Doomed_Daniel @jef @henry I remember seeing a post by someone that wasn't so far removed. When young people no longer have jobs due to automation, we'll just send them into space.

@pervognsen @ids1024 @Doomed_Daniel @henry Pressure suits optional.

(I always assumed this was what was going on in Blade Runner with the "off-world colonies".)

@jef @ids1024 @Doomed_Daniel @henry Hah, that was literally the joke I made, which made me find the original post via search. https://mastodon.social/@pervognsen/115042001184309870

That graph is *also* a retort to anyone arguing that exponential growth in the past will reliably continue

Twofer!

@jef @henry

@jef @henry What the nonlinear fuck is the scaling on the y axis?

@kentenmakto @henry I think it's linear, and even zero-based, but it sure looks like some weird log thing doesn't it.

Edit: On the left side. On the right, no idea.

@jef @henry Damn me, it *is* linear. It's just a) seeing exponential notation in that context is weird and b) when you're graphing growth and, uh, ungrowth, you just expect a semi-log graph.

("Three data points will almost always form a straight line on either a linear, semi-log, or log-log graph. So if you only have one kind of graph paper, you should only take two measurements.")

@kentenmakto @jef @henry there’s some real chartcrime going on at the bottom of the y-axis scale. I assume it’s just interrupted from zero, but it means the last few datapoints are not clear.

So around 5x reduction on number of horses from peak? That’s actually far less than I’d guess.

@jered @kentenmakto @henry It's not though. I agree it looks janky, and for no reason, but in fact it's just linear.
@jef @jered @kentenmakto @henry Would have been slightly clearer if the 5 x 10^6 was written as 0.5 x 10^7 instead.
@Ryan1729 @jef @jered @kentenmakto @henry "horses (millions)" (5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30) would have been the normal thing to do, i believe.
@jef @henry Cool: a graph about horses that looks like a horse’s head.
@jef @henry This chart was so shocking I almost came close to nearly raising an eyebrow.
@henry “women were liberated because of the invention of the washing machine”-ass statement
@vozercozer @henry women can do whatever they want now 

@henry and yet I think it is he who has the blinkers on.

*Winks at camera, tilts glass suggestively*

@henry
The future you get to look forward to after AI does your job badly for you:

@Tristan @henry Made me think of this, and it is not good.

https://www.noidea.dog/glue

Being Glue — No Idea Blog

Slides and notes for the Being Glue talk.

No Idea Blog
@Tristan @henry, hopefully we're not stuck with that.
@henry The fastest children will be raced for sport, the rest sold to the glue factory. Freedom!
@henry
(Sorry for the following rant)
EEESH , yeah I can tell he didn’t go to school, particularly history, or just real life experience on a farm 😳🫩
Do ya really wanna know where all the horses went? Lots of ‘em were sent to slaughter houses & are still being sent to slaughter houses to this day.
They’re not “free” from work , people still have ‘em to ride, yet they send them to auction & they end up in a meat factory. So… sorry. You don’t know anything about what you’re talking about 🫩
@henry this has to be satire
@henry This isn't as much true. Horses keep being breed by humans, used in races and steaks. The hard lesson is that humans don't return anything to nature, not even themselves.
The clear example is industrial revolution, after which humans haven't been freed from work, but just advanced to new forms of slavery.
Note that I'm truly convinced about the good from technological advances: I just see that humans, on average, can't change for good. The solution is beyond my humble comments.
@luc0x61 @henry Someone above mentioned the rock dove or “homing pigeon” that is probably the only example of “returning to the wild” that was relatively successful and rather invasive 😹 (but hey, at least they can survive urban cities better than most species 😹) . Before the invention of the telegraph and a secure messaging system (no telegraphs weren’t entirely secure 😹) pigeons were the fastest form of communication (I don’t know if this makes you feel any better 😹)
RFC 2549: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service

@henry I'd like to know when's the last time he saw a horse in real life.
@akamran @henry he sees the ass of one every time he looks in the mirror though.
@akamran I've seen a few horses in Providence, but not near Brown. And they're not running free or anything like that, of course. And I don't know where this dope is hanging out now.
@henry There is some appeal to the thought that if AI can really do all the nasty work, we can all go do fun stuff. But apparently capitalism doesn't work that way...
@KeithWM @henry Turns out the fun stuff already has way too much competition and that's why people resort to the jobs that aren't fun.

@KeithWM Capitalism could have freed most people from drudgery over a century ago. It didn't, obviously. But not for lack of AI or the like.

The moneyed classes just can't stand the ideal of 'lesser' people getting a 'free ride', even if that would make the best sense for everyone, including them.

I did a study on public transit once, and concluded that that's the only purpose of bus fares, because they DO NOT pay for bus service, and aren't even needed. They just make rich people feel better.

@henry do you have a source for this? this is amazing.
What’s the Point of School When AI Can Do Your Homework?

The creator of the AI agent “Einstein” wants to free humans from the burden of academic labor. Critics say that misses the point of education entirely.

404 Media
@henry much appreciated!

@henry @Amoshias So, the guy who thinks school is a waste of time and learning is something a machine should do for you, thinks horses just run around free in the wilderness doing whatever they want now that they're not pulling carriages?

That tracks.

@henry Glue certainly was cheaper for a decade or so.
@henry lol this makes it sound like horses are like Mr. Horse in Ren & Stimpy and just living like a human because he doesn't have to pull people around anymore. These people are just so, so bad at metaphors.

@henry this AI bro should’ve used pigeons instead of horses, they are definitely free to crap on everything, including this AI bro. I’m somewhat unsure he likes to be crapped on

I’m not judging anyone’s kinks

@xgebi @henry yes honestly if he actually paid attention to history lessons this would have been a much more appropriate argument … and I might have taken a moment to think if it was a reasonable statement… so yeah, he’s a privileged idiot who doesn’t “deal with reality”😹

@xgebi The last military homing pigeons were retired in 1994. A dozen of the best were retained for racing (human entertainment). The rest, according the Swiss Army, were eaten.

So fatten up, folks, Boy Wonder and his techbro pals have a plan for us, and it's not to run free in a farm upstate.

also, he looks at working class people as horses? this is classic, “tell me you are holding hard to a caste system without telling me you are at the top of a caste system”

@henry

@henry Well, not all of the horse. Their asses are, however, in charge of the US government currently.

This joke predates the automobile, and I love it.

@Thorium @henry